More Discussions for this daf
1. The key to rain and the nature of "Shelichus" 2. MAYIM 3. First Mishnah
4. Three Keys 5. Techiyas ha'Mesim, Nisuch ha'Mayim, Eser Neti'os 6. R'Yehoshua
7. Machlokes Rashi and Tosfos 8. Af Bri and the Key of Rain 9. Tefilas Geshem
10. Why does R' Yehoshua Need to Bring Another R'ayah 11. The keys of life 12. Maftechos
13. Geshem and Matar 14. Safek in Tosfos DH Me'emasai 15. Resurrection of the dead?
16. Meshech Chochmah about the keys to the seas 17. Ra'avan 18. the 3 maftejot
19. Mashiv ha'Ru'ach 20. Mashiv ha'Ruach 21. The Hint of Nisuch ha'Mayim according to Rabbi Yehuda ben Beseirah
22. לפיכך אם בא להזכיר כל השנה כולה מזכיר
DAF DISCUSSIONS - TA'ANIS 2

Albert Mizrahi asked:

When Rabbi Yehuda ben Beteira says that the hint to the NISUCH HAMAYIM is in the letters mem yud and mem because they are extra letters in the pesukim. According to this reasoning there is also another extra letter. The letter yud in the word ve'niskehem is as well extra. How would Rabbi Yehuda ben Beteira use that letter?

Albert Mizrahi, Brooklyn, New York

The Kollel replies:

According to Tosfos in Moed Katan (3b, DH "Nisuch ha'Mayim) that this is an Asmachta, the question falls off as the real source is a Halachah l'Moshe mi'Sinai. If one suggests that this explanation doesn't seem to fit well with our Gemara (see Gevuras Ari), it is possible that the answer is due to the grammatic necessity of having a Yud in the middle of a word once the Mem is added at the end. This would mean that the Yud is not extra, but rather is there due to the extra Mem. If the Yud was the extra letter, it would not warrant having an extra Mem, as the Pasuk could have merely said "u'Nisache'ha." Accordingly, it is possible that the Mem is really extra and not the Yud.

All the best,

Yaakov Montrose