More Discussions for this daf
1. Three reasons to keep away from a Churvah 2. The signs of Mishmaros 3. The end of the Ashmuros
4. Simanim for the end of night 5. Tosfos DH v'Ein, Sparing the rich 6. Answering Tosfos' question
7. King David 8. Source of R. Yehuda's opinion of plag hamincha 9. Q&A Answer #1a
10. What we can say before the Mes 11. Tosfos DH Kashya 12. How many Mishmaros
13. The signs for the Mishmaros 14. Rebbi Nasan 15. Dovid Hamelech's Evening Schedule
16. Churvah 17. Time of Going to Bed 18. Mishmaros
19. A Handful Doesn't Feed a Lion 20. Sending out to war 21. Times of the Mishmaros; When is midnight
22. The two hours added to David's Cheshbon of two Ashmuros 23. Machzor Vitri 24. Tosfos DH Kashya d'Rebbi Meir
25. Tosfos DH Kashya d'Rebbi Eliezer 26. Ashmuros; Urim v'Tumim 27. King David's harp
28. Fooling the angels; 3 or 4 Ashmuros 29. King David sending the nation to war 30. Source for Ashmoros
31. query 32. çöåú ìéìä äéä òåñ÷ áãáøé úåøä
 DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 3
1. Marcus Abisror asks:

the gemara answers that when david says he got up 2 ashmurot, it means before other kings that get up in the third hour, and so you get 8 hours which is the same as two ashmurot, but if you think about it its not the same as 8 hours, because with the cheshbon of shaot zmaniyot, night hours are somertimes longer and sometimes shorter than day hours, so if we add two daytime hours to six nightime hours some parts of the year it wont be two ashmurot worth of time, because the ashmurot are at night, so if we go with 8 nightime hours, it would be more than six plus two?

Marcus Abisror, Long Branch

2. The Kollel replies:

This is an intriguing question! But isn't it so that if you consider Sha'os Zmaniyos, there will always be 6 hours from Chatzos until dawn, that is to say 6 Sha'os Zmaniyos? And, actually, the same is true about the daytime hours, for even in the winter when two Sha'os Zmaniyos are, let's say, 90 minutes, this would still be considered two hours since we are halfway or more into the second hour.

Alternatively, we could say that since in the great majority of the year (spring, summer, fall) David ha'Melech arose two full eight-hour periods (or more) before the other kings, his description of his sleeping pattern was justified. Therefore, even though in some months we might not have been able to derive that habit due to the short hours, nonetheless we can describe it as such since we are addressing a yearlong pattern of behavior.

Shimon Brodie