Question (Rav Huna): The Torah did not repeat salt, yet it is Me'akev!

(Beraisa - R. Yehudah): "Bris Melach Olam" - there is a covenant with salt.

R. Shimon says, it says "Bris Melach Olam", and it says "Bris Kehunas Olam." Just like Korbanos require Kehunah, they require salt.

Answer #1 (Rav Yosef): Rav holds like our Tana, who is Machshir a Korban without salt.

Question (Abaye): If so, we should similarly be Machshir if Yetzikah was not done at all! (We did not explain the Mishnah (18a) this way!)

Rather, (the Mishnah is Machshir when) a Kohen did not do Yetzikah, rather, a Yisrael did.

Similarly, (it is Machshir when) a Kohen did not salt, rather, a Yisrael did.

Answer (Rav Yosef): A Yisrael may not approach the Mizbe'ach to salt. (Therefore, we must say that it was not salted at all.)

Answer #2 (to Question (a)): Since it says "Bris", it is as if it was repeated.

Question: Salt is repeated - "v'Chol Korban Minchascha ba'Melach Timlach"!

Answer: That is needed for the following teaching:

(Beraisa): Had it said 'Korban ba'Melach', one might have thought even wood and blood must be salted, for they are called Korban;

Therefore, it says 'Minchas.' Just like a Minchah requires other things (it must be burned on wood), all Korbanos that require other things must be salted.

Suggestion: Perhaps we include things that permit, like Minchah. This would include blood!

Rejection: We put salt "me'Al Minchasecha", but not on blood.

Suggestion: Perhaps all of the Minchah must be salted!

Rejection: "Korban" - only the part that is a Korban (Huktar) must be salted.

Question: This teaches only that the Kometz must be salted. What is the source for Levonah?

Answer: We include Levonah, for it is in the Kli with the Minchah.

Question: What is the source to salt the following?

Levonah brought by itself, or in Bazichim (brought with Lechem ha'Panim), Ketores, Minchas Kohanim, Chavitiei Kohen Gadol, Minchas Nesachim;

Eimurim of Chatas, Asham and other Kodshei Kodoshim, and of Kodshim Kalim, Ivrei Olah and Olas ha'Of.

Answer: "Al Kol Korbancha Takriv Melach."

Question: The Beraisa includes Levonah because it is in the Kli with the Minchah. We already included Korbanos that require other things! (Levonah must be burned on wood.)

Answer: The Beraisa suggested that perhaps we should expound "Korban... Minchah" according to Klal and Prat. From Klal and Prat we include only the Prat, i.e. Minchah;

Since there is another Klal, "Korbancha", we expound Klal, Prat and Klal, and include everything similar to the Prat, i.e. Korbanos that require other things;

Just like Minchah requires wood (to burn the Kometz), we include all Korbanos that require wood.

Question: Why don't we say that just like Minchah requires Levonah (to accompany it), we include blood, for Nesachim (wine) accompanies it!

Answer #1: Nesachim are considered an accompaniment for Eimurim, not for blood.

Question: What is the reason?

Answer: (The Torah discusses 'Achilah' regarding the Mizbe'ach.) Eating and drinking go together.

Objection: Rather, we should say that wine (which is "Mesame'ach Elokim va'Anashim") accompanies the blood, for after Kaparah (Zerikah), there is Simchah!

Answer #2: Nesachim are unlike Levonah. Levonah is in the Kli with the Minchah, but Nesachim are not in the Kli with the blood. (This completes the answer to Question (a). The Beraisa means that we include Korbanos such as Levonah that require other things (wood, to burn it) because it is in the Kli with the Minchah.)

However, all Korbanos (that are burned) require wood in the same way.

Suggestion: We should include everything similar to the Prat, i.e. Korbanos that require other things and permit?

This would include only Levonah brought in Bazichim, which permits Lechem ha'Panim! (Yad Binyamin - obviously we do not exclude Levonah of a Minchah, which requires wood and permits, for it is in the same Kli with the Minchah.)

Answer: "Me'Al Minchasecha" excludes blood. If not for the verse, we would have included it (even though it does not require other things). This shows that we include Korbanos that (resemble the Prat in one way, i.e. they) require other things or permit.

Question (Beraisa): "Me'Al Minchasecha" excludes blood;

Why don't we use this to exclude limbs?

Answer: It is more reasonable to include limbs, for they resemble Minchah in the following ways (the Siman to remember them is AShBaN TaMEi):

They require Acherim (other things), they are burned on the Esh (fire), they are offered only b'Chutz (outside the Heichal), Nosar, Tamei and Me'ilah apply to them (Tosfos - the Gemara omitted the last similarity, that they are Ochel (food).)

Question: It is more reasonable to include blood, for it permits and it becomes Pasul at sundown, like a Minchah (the Kometz must be offered before sundown)!

Answer: There are more similarities to limbs.

(Beraisa): Had it said 'Korban ba'Melach', one might have thought even wood and blood must be salted, for they are called Korban.

Question: Our Tana is Rebbi, who says that wood is called Korban. Rebbi requires salt!

(Beraisa): "Korban" teaches that one may bring a Nedavah of wood.

One must bring at least two large branches - "veha'Goralos Hipalnu Al Korban ha'Etzim".

Rebbi says, wood is considered a Korban Minchah and requires salt and Hagashah.

(Rava): According to Rebbi wood requires Kemitzah.

(Rav Papa): According to Rebbi, a Nedavah of wood requires (must be burned on) other wood.

Answer: We must delete 'wood' from the text of the Beraisa.