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1. Questions from Daf 13-21 2. R Shimon Ben Gamliel "Ma'aseh Rav" 3. Mistake in Question
4. Chashmona'im 5. Yonah's Kikoyon 6. Rav Huna and Rav Chisda
7. Time Chanukah Lights Must Burn 8. Miracle of Oil 9. The Parei ha'Chag of Sukkos and the Chanukah lights
10. Ner Ish u'Beiso 11. Mehadrin and Pirsum Nes 12. Mehadrin
13. Insights on the Daf - Vilna Gaon on the Rif 14. The eight day miracle 15. The argument between Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel how to light the Chanukah lights
16. Hillel and Shamai 17. How to light the Chanukah candles: 18. Neros After 30 Minutes
19. Next year... 20. Eight days of Chanukah 21. שיטת אביי
22. טעמי ב"ש וב"ה

Michael Goldrich asked:

In the Daf this response is brought as proof from the Ma'aseh of R. Shimon ben Gamliel suggesting that his family action was more compelling a proof then the mesorah of the halacha earlier in the sugya. Could the Kollel explain the contradition between this answer of the Gemara and the text I have seen elsewhere which suggests that we don't learn halacha from a Ma'aseh

Michael Goldrich, East Brunswick, USA

The Kollel replies:

Spot on!

There is a Machlokes in Bava Basra 130b whether we say 'Ma'aseh Rav' (because once an Amora actually issues a ruling like one opinion, he really holds like that) or 'Halachah Adifah' (because one may have misunderstood the reason behind the ruling).

The Gemara in Shabbos holds like the first opinion (and that is how we normally take on).

Kol Tuv,

R. Eliezer Chrysler