(Rav Papa): Regarding Kisuy and Matanos, the Tana'im discuss a Koy born from a male deer and a female goat;

All are unsure whether we are concerned for the seed of the father;

Chachamim say that a partial Seh is a Seh. R. Eliezer disagrees.

Regarding Oso v'Es Beno, they discuss any child of a deer and goat;

If the mother is a deer, Chachamim forbid (slaughtering the child and the child's child on the same day. Perhaps we are concerned for the seed of the father, and it is a half-goat.) R. Eliezer permits. (Even if it is a half-goat, it is not forbidden);

If the mother is a goat, Chachamim give lashes (for slaughtering the child and its child on the same day, since it is at least a half-goat), and R. Eliezer does not. (He admits that it is forbidden, for perhaps it is a full goat.)

(Rav Yehudah): A Koy is a species unto itself. Chachamim were unable to decide if it is a Chayah or Behemah.

(Rav Nachman): A Koy is a wild ram (Tosfos - this is a Chayah.)

Each holds like a different Tana;

(Beraisa): A Koy is a wild ram;

Some say, it is the child of a male goat and a female deer;

R. Yosi says, it is a species unto itself. Chachamim could not decide if it is a Chayah or Behemah;

R. Shimon ben Gamliel says, it is a Behemah. A certain family grew great flocks of them.

(R. Zeira): Forest goats are Kosher for Korbanos. (They are considered goats.)

He holds like R. Yitzchak.

(R. Yitzchak): The Torah lists only 10 Kosher animals. Since forest goats are not listed among the Kosher Chayos, they must be (Behemos, i.e.) goats.

Question #1 (Rav Acha bar Yakov): "Wild goat and deer" (in the verses that list the Kosher animals) are Peratim (specific terms). "Every animal" is a Klal (general term);

From a Prat and Klal, we include more things!

Answer: Had the Torah meant to include more species, it would not have listed so many Peratim!

Question #2: (Rav Acha brei d'Rav Ika): Perhaps the forest goat is Ako (one of the Kosher Chayos that we do not recognize)!

Question #3: (Rav Acha brei d'Rava): Perhaps it is Te'o or Zemer (other Kosher Chayos)!

(R. Chanan): Ameimar permitted Chelev of the forest goat. (He is sure that it is a Chayah.)

Question (Aba brei d'Rav Minyamin bar Chiya): Are forest goats Kosher for Korbanos?

Answer (Rav Huna bar Chiya): Chachamim and R. Yosi argue only about a wild ox (this is the Arame'ic translation of Te'o);

(Mishnah): A wild ox is a Behemah;

R. Yosi says, it is a Chayah.

Chachamim learn from its Targum 'Torbela (ox of the forest)';

R. Yosi says, since it is listed among the Chayos, it is a Chayah.

All agree that forest goats are goats.

Question #1: (Rav Acha brei d'Rav Ika): Perhaps the forest goat is Ako!

Question #2: (Rav Acha brei d'Rava): Perhaps it is Te'o or Zemer!

(R. Chanan): Ameimar permitted Chelev of the forest goat. (He holds that it is a Chayah.)

(Mishnah): If one slaughters...

(R. Oshaya): The Mishnah is not like R. Shimon.

It says that if (a mother and son of) Kodshim are slaughtered outside, the first Shochet is Chayav Kares, both Shochtim are lashed, and both animals are forbidden;

R. Shimon holds that improper Shechitah (i.e. it does not permit the meat) is not considered Shechitah;

Since the first Shechitah is not Shechitah, the second animal was a Kosher Korban when it was slaughtered outside. Also the second Shochet should get Kares!

The Mishnah says that if Chulin are slaughtered inside, the second Shochet is lashed, and both animals are forbidden;

According to R. Shimon, the first Shechitah is not Shechitah. The second Shochet should not be lashed!

The Mishnah says that if Kodshim are slaughtered inside, the first Korban is Kosher, the second is Pasul, and the second Shochet is lashed;

According to R. Shimon, Shechitah of Kodshim is an improper Shechitah (since it does not permit the meat. Zerikah (throwing the blood) permits it). Also the second Korban should be Kosher, and the Shochet should not be lashed!

All these show that the Mishnah is not like R. Shimon.

Question: This is obvious!

Answer: One might have thought that Shechitah of Kodshim is considered proper Shechitah, for it helps to permit the meat;

If one did Nechirah (cut or tore the Simanim lengthwise), Zerikah would not permit the meat. If one slaughtered, Zerikah permits the meat!

R. Oshaya teaches that is not considered proper Shechitah (since it does not permit the meat immediately, or because Shechitah alone does not permit).

Question: Why didn't the Mishnah mention lashes for slaughtering a Korban too early (when the latter Shechitah is a Korban, for one may not slaughter it until the next day)?

(Beraisa): "An ox or Seh that has an oversized limb... " teaches that one who offers any Pasul Korban transgresses "it will not be accepted."

Answer #1: The Mishnah mentions lashes only for Oso v'Es Beno, but not for other Isurim.

Objection: The Mishnah mentions lashes for Shechutei Chutz!

(Mishnah): If both were Kodshim and slaughtered outside, the first Shochet is Chayav Kares, and both are lashed.

The second is lashed for Oso v'Es Beno, but the first is lashed for Shechutei Chutz!

Answer #2: The Mishnah mentions lashes for other Isurim only if there are no lashes for Oso v'Es Beno.