1)

WHEN FOODS JOIN

(a)

Question: R. Shimon holds that there is no need for foods to join (he obligates for eating any amount). What does he learn from "all that comes from the grapevine"?

(b)

Answer: This teaches that one must accept all the Isurim in order to become a Nazir.

(c)

(R. Avahu citing R. Eliezer): The only case in which one is liable for consuming a Revi'is and Heter joins with Isur is a Nazir, for it says "Mishras".

(d)

Question: What is the difference between the teachings of R. Eliezer and R. Yochanan (35b, the only case in which Heter joins with Isur is Isurei Nazir)?

(e)

Answer: R. Yochanan teaches that even solid foods combine. R. Eliezer teaches only that liquids join.

2)

THE SHI'UR OF A REVI'IS

(a)

(R. Eliezer): The Shi'ur of a Revi'is applies to 10 laws.

(b)

(Rav Kahana): Five apply to red liquids, and five apply to white liquids.

(c)

A Siman (way to remember) the red liquids is 'a Nazir and one doing the Pesach, who gave rulings in the Mikdash and died':'

1.

A Nazir - he is liable for drinking a Revi'is of wine.

2.

Pesach - (Rav Yehudah): (Each of) the four cups of wine must be at least a Revi'is.

3.

Who gave rulings - one who drank a Revi'is of wine may not rule about Halachah.

4.

In the Mikdash - if one drank a Revi'is of wine and entered the Mikdash, he is liable to death (at the hands of Heaven).

5.

And died - (Beraisa): "Upon all souls of a Mes he will not come" teaches that a Revi'is of blood from two Mesim is Metamei the room.

(d)

A Siman to remember the white liquids is 'the Chalah of a Nazir and a Metzora that became Pasul on Shabbos';

1.

Chalah - a Revi'is of oil is used in each Chalah of the Kohen Gadol's daily Minchah offering (Rashi; Tosfos - for the loaves and wafers in a Korban Todah. Another Revi'is is used for the fried flour offering.)

2.

Nazir - a Revi'is of oil is used for the loaves and wafers of a Nazir.

3.

Metzora - a bird is slaughtered and its blood is spilled into a Revi'is of water.

4.

That became Pasul - one who drinks a Revi'is of (any combination of) Tamei liquids is disqualified from eating Terumah.

5.

Shabbos - (Mishnah): If one takes a Revi'is of any other liquids (for which the Mishnah did not other Shi'urim) or waste water from a Reshus ha'Yachid to a Reshus ha'Rabim, he is liable.

(e)

Questions: There are also others!

(f)

Question (Mishnah): One person, or even two, may wash his hands from a Revi'is of water.

(g)

Answer: R. Eliezer did not count laws about which Tana'im argued. (R. Yosi requires that a Revi'is remain before the last person washes.)

(h)

Question (Mishnah): An earthenware Kli was taken for a Sotah, and a half Log of water was put in it;

1.

R. Yehudah says, a Revi'is was put in.

(i)

Answer: R. Eliezer did not count laws about which Tana'im argued.

(j)

Question (Mishnah): If one puts any amount of water into urine, one may pray near it;

1.

R. Zakai requires a Revi'is.

(k)

Answer: R. Eliezer did not count laws about which Tana'im argued.

(l)

Question: One may immerse Kelim in a Mikvah that contains a Revi'is of water.

(m)

Answer: Chachamim abolished that law (and require 40 Sa'im).

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3)

LIABILITY FOR GRAPES AND WINE

(a)

(Mishnah): One is liable only for eating a k'Zayis of grapes...

(b)

The initial version of the Mishnah (obligated for a Revi'is of wine. It) did (not - Rosh deletes this from the text) equate all Isurim of a Nazir (i.e. eating) to drinking;

1.

R. Akiva expounds "and wet or dry grapes he will not eat" (written after the Isur of wine). Just like one is liable for eating a k'Zayis, also for drinking a k'Zayis.

(c)

(Mishnah): One is liable for wine by itself...

(d)

(Beraisa): "And wet or dry grapes he will not eat" obligates for each Isur by itself;

(e)

From this we learn to all Isurim in the Torah (Tosfos' text - all Isurim of a Nazir). Whenever there are two names for Isurim within one species, one is liable for each;

1.

This comes to include new wine (grape juice) and grapes (even though they have the same taste).

4)

IS ONE LASHED FOR A LAV SHEBI'CHLALOS?

(a)

(Abaye): One is lashed twice (two sets of 39 lashes) for eating grape pits. One is lashed twice for grape skins, and three times for eating both grape pits and skins;

(b)

(Rava): He is only lashed once (for each (pits and skins). Some texts include these words; most Rishonim learn this way even according to our text), but one is not lashed for Lav shebi'Chelalos (a Lav that encompasses different Isurim, e.g. "all that is made from the grapevine").

(c)

Question (Rav Papa, against Abaye - Beraisa): If a Nazir drank wine all day, he is lashed only once. If they warned him 'don't drink, don't drink' and he drank, he is lashed once for each warning;

1.

If he ate wet and dry grapes, grape pits and skins, and squeezed a cluster of grapes and drank the juice, he is lashed five times.

2.

According to Abaye, he should be lashed also for "all that is made from the grapevine", six times in all!

(d)

Answer (Abaye): The Tana did not list all the lashes he receives.

(e)

Question: He would not omit just one thing. What other lashes did he omit?

(f)

Answer: He omitted lashes for "Lo Yachel Devaro (he will not profane his word." Tosfos - this arouses a question: according to Rava, what else was omitted?)

(g)

Answer (Rava): "He will not make his word profane" is not an omission. The Tana lists only Isurim special to a Nazir.

(h)

Question (Ravina from Parzika): The Isur on the inside of the grapes (Rashi; Tosfos - small grapes that never ripen) was omitted!

(i)

Retraction (Rav Papa): Really, the Beraisa does not say hold as many times he is lashed.

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