1)

(a)On what grounds do the Rabbanan query Rebbi Shimon, who replaces the Hin measure with that of a Log and a half? What could they have used instead of the Log and a half measure?

(b)What did Rebbi Shimon retort? Which measure could the Rabbanan too, have dispensed with?

(c)So why, according to Rebbi Shimon, did they not use the half-Log measure for the Chavitei Kohen Gadol, and the quarter Log measure in place of the half-Log and Log measures? Which principle governs this ruling?

(d)Which Tana does not hold of this principle?

1)

(a)The Rabbanan query Rebbi Shimon (who replaces the Hin measure with that of a Log and a half) in that - they could have used the third of a Log measure (and measured three times) instead.

(b)Rebbi Shimon retorted that - they too, could have dispensed with the half-Log and the Log measure, and used a quarter-Log measure instead.

(c)The reason that, according to Rebbi Shimon, they did not use the half-Log measure for the Chavitei Kohen Gadol, and the quarter Log measure in place of the half-Log and Log measures is - because of the principle that a measure that is used for one commodity, cannot be used for a different one.

(d)The Tana who does not agree of this principle is - Rebbi Eliezer b'Rebbi Tzadok, who says Shenasos Hayu ba'Hin (as we learned in our Mishnah).

2)

(a)What are Birutzei Midos?

(b)In the opinion of Rebbi Yochanan, that is what distinguishes between Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah. What measure did Hash-m initially give to Moshe at Har Sinai, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah?

2. ... Rebbi Meir?

(c)How was Moshe supposed to proceed from there, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah?

2. ... Rebbi Meir?

(d)How does this explain the respective opinions regarding Birutzei Midos of ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah?

2. ... Rebbi Meir?

2)

(a)Birutzei Midos - are the drops of wine which spill over the side of the vessel.

(b)In the opinion of Rebbi Yochanan, that is what distinguishes between Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah. The measure that Hash-m initially give to Moshe at Har Sinai, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah was - a Revi'is ha'Log (and a Revi'is ha'Hin).

2. ... Rebbi Meir was - a Hin.

(c)And Moshe was to proceed from there, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah - by pouring two Revi'iyos into a K'li of half a Log (in order to ascertain how much it contained), and then four Revi'is into a vessel of one Log, and so on.

2. ... Rebbi Meir - by filling up a vessel containing a Hin, and then pouring it into two measures of half a Hin each, then into three vessels of a third of a Hin, and so on.

(d)Consequently, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehudah, pouring from a small vessel into a larger one would automatically result in large measures spilling over the side of the K'li before entering the large one (which is why he considers the Birutzei ha'Midos sanctified).

2. ... Rebbi Meir, since they would pour from the large vessel into smaller ones, there would be little spillage if any (which is why he does not need to consider the Birutzei ha'Midos sanctified).

3)

(a)Abaye disagrees with Rebbi Yochanan. According to him, the Machlokes Tana'im is based on the Pasuk in Naso "Sheneihem Melei'im So'les". Rebbi Meir, who holds that Moshe was first given the Hin measure, holds she'Lo Yechsar ve'she'Lo Yosir. On what grounds can Rebbi Yehudah not possibly agree with that?

(b)According to Abaye, what do both Tana'im then hold regarding Birutzei Midos,?

3)

(a)According to Abaye, the Machlokes Tana'im is based on the Pasuk in Naso "Sheneihem Melei'im So'les". Rebbi Meir, who holds that Moshe was first given the Hin measure, holds she'Lo Yechsar ve'she'Lo Yosir. Rebbi Yehudah cannot agree with that - because two vessels of liquid full will inevitably contain more than one larger one, either because one always adds a little (and two additions are more than one, or because of the double amount of froth.

(b)According to Abaye, both Tana'im will agree however - either that Birutzei Midos are sanctified or that they are not.

4)

(a)How do the Rabbanan counter Rebbi Shimon's argument that the Hin measure serves no purpose in the Mikdash?

(b)What is then the basis of their Machlokes?

(c)Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah, replaced the Hin measure with that of a Log and a half. Why was that necessary? If the Hin measure was not needed, why does it need to be replaced?

(d)It appears that Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok (who validates one vessel containing all the markings) does not hold of this principle either. How do we nevertheless amend the Lashon Sheva Midos in order to accommodate him?

4)

(a)The Rabbanan counter Rebbi Shimon's argument that the Hin measure serves no purpose in the Mikdash - by referring to the anointing oil, which comprised one Hin.

(b)The basis of their Machlokes is - whether, since it was only used on that one occasion, it was hidden immediately after use (Rebbi Shimon) or whether, having been manufactured and sanctified, it remained with them (even though it was not used again).

(c)Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah, replaced the Hin measure with that of a Log and a half, despite the fact that the Hin measure was not needed - because of the tradition that there have to be seven Midos (measuring vessels, as Ravina will teach us later in the Perek).

(d)It appears that Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok (who validates one vessel containing all the markings) does not hold of this principle either. However, we amend the Lashon Sheva Midos to - Sheva Medidos (seven measurements, which may all appear in one vessel), in order to accommodate him.

5)

(a)What was the ...

1. ... Revi'is ha'Log used for, besides the quarter of a Log of water for the purification of a Metzora.

2. ... Chatzi Log used for, besides the half a Log of water for a Sotah to drink?

(b)And what was the Log measure used for?

(c)According to the Tana Kama, a Minchah comprising sixty Esronos requires sixty Lugin of oil. What does Rebbi Eliezer say, based on the Pasuk in Metzora "le'Minchah ve'Log Shamen"?

(d)How many Lugin of oil and wine are needed for the Minchas Nesachim (of the Musaf) of ...

1. ... each bull?

2. ... each ram?

3. ... each lamb?

(e)And how much oil is needed for the Menorah each day?

5)

(a)Besides ...

1. ... the quarter of a Log of water for the purification of a Metzora, the Revi'is ha'Log was also used - for the Revi'is of oil for the Minchah of a Nazir (as will be explained later).

2. ... the half a Log of water for a Sotah to drink, the Chatzi Log was also used - for the half a Log of oil for the Todah (as will be explained later) ...

(b)... and the Log measure was used - for all the Menachos.

(c)According to the Tana Kama, a Minchah comprising sixty Esronos requires sixty Lugin of oil, Based on the Pasuk "le'Minchah ve'Log Shamen", Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov maintains that - one Log of oil was sufficient, even for a Minchah comprising sixty Esronim of flour.

(d)The number of Lugin of oil and wine that are needed for the Minchas Nesachim (of the Musaf) of each ...

1. ... bull is - six (half a Hin).

2. ... ram is - four (a third of a Hin).

3. ... lamb is three (a quarter of a Hin) ...

(e)... and the amount of oil that is needed for the Menorah each day is - three and a half Lugin (half a Log for each lamp).

6)

(a)What did each K'li Shareis require before it could be used for the Avodah?

(b)What problem did Rebbi then have with the anointing of the Revi'is ha'Log measure? Why would that not be necessary for the quarter of a Log of ...

1. ... water for a Metzora?

2. ... oil for the loaves of a Minchas Nazir?

(c)How did Rebbi Chiya solve Rebbi's problem? What was the Revi'is ha'Log used for?

(d)What did Rebbi mean when he cited the Pasuk in Yeshayah "me'Eretz Merchak Ish Atzasi"?

(e)Why did he quote this Pasuk with regard to Rebbi Chiya?

6)

(a)Before a K'li Shareis could be used for the Avodah - it had to be anointed with the anointing Oil.

(b)The problem Rebbi has with the anointing of the Revi'is ha'Log measure, is why it was necessary. If it was for the quarter of a Log of ...

1. ... water for a Metzora - that ceremony takes place in the Gate of Nikanor, which was not sanctified (so why do they need a K'li Shareis to sanctify the water that is used there?).

2. ... oil for the loaves of a Minchas Nazir is that - they only become sanctified with the Shechitah of the Eil Nazir, and not through the addition of the oil.

(c)Rebbi Chiya solved Rebbi's problem - by referring to the twelve Chavitei Kohen Gadol, each of which contained a Revi'is ha'Log, which had to be poured into it from a K'li Shareis.

(d)Rebbi cited the Pasuk "me'Eretz Merchak Ish Atzasi" = meaning "My man of good counsel came from afar" ...

(e)... with regard to Rebbi Chiya - who originated from Bavel.

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7)

(a)What problem did Rebbi have with the anointing of the half-Log measure. Why would that not be necessary for the half a Log of ...

1. ... water for the Sotah to drink?

2. ... oil for the Todah?

(b)How did his son Rebbi Shimon, solve the problem? What was the Chatzi ha'Log used for?

(c)How did Rebbi respond to that? How did he refer to his son?

(d)What does Rebbi Yochanan citing Rebbi say about the oil and (even) the wicks of a lamp of the Menorah in the Beis-Hamikdash that went out during the night, because it ran out of oil?

7)

(a)The problem Rebbi had with the half-Log measure, is why it would have been necessary for the half a Log of ...

1. ... water for the Sotah to drink - seeing as the water for the Sotah is specifically referred to as 'Mayim Kedoshim', and does not require sanctification.

2. ... oil for the Todah is - that the Lachmei Todah are sanctified by the Shechitah of the Korban Todah, and not through the addition of the oil (like the loaves of a Minchas Nazir).

(b)His son Rebbi Shimon, solved the problem - by ascribing the sanctification of the half-Log measure to the oil that was used in each lamp of the Menorah (as we explained earlier).

(c)Rebbi responded to that - by (aptly) referring to him as Ner Yisrael, adding that this was the correct answer.

(d)Rebbi Yochanan citing Rebbi says that the oil and (even) the wicks of a lamp of the Menorah in the Beis-Hamikdash that went out during the night, due to a lack of oil - must both be replaced (even if the wick is still in good shape).

8)

(a)Rebbi Zeira asked how much oil was needed to replace the oil that they removed. What were the two sides of his She'eilah?

(b)Rebbi Yirmiyah replied emphatically that they had to refill the lamp with half a Log, like they poured in initially. Why ...

1. ... did he consider this so obvious?

2. ... could the Kohen simply not assess the amount of oil that was needed?

(c)What was Rebbi Zeira's reaction to Rebbi Yirmiyah's answer? Which Pasuk in Tehilim did he quote?

(d)What is the gist of this Pasuk?

8)

(a)Rebbi Zeira asked how much oil was needed to replace the oil that they removed - the full third of a Log or only as much as was needed to replace the oil that they removed.

(b)Rebbi Yirmiyah replied emphatically that they had to refill the lamp with half a Log, as they poured in initially.

1. He considered this obvious - because how would the Kohen otherwise know how much oil to pour in.

2. Nor could he rely on his assessment, even if he would have known - because then an additional measuring vessel with the appropriate amount of oil would have been required, and that in turn, would entail countless numbers of such vessels, to accommodate the numerous possibilities (notwithstanding the fact that seven K'lei Shareis are required, no more, no less).

(c)Rebbi Zeira was so overjoyed with Rebbi Yirmiyah's answer that - he quoted the Pasuk in Tehilim "ve'Hadarcha Tz'lach u'Rechav al D'var Emes" ...

(d)... which roughly translated, means 'and your glory comes through the Emes that you attained'.

9)

(a)Rebbi Avahu citing Rebbi Yochanan, corroborates all that we just said. Others cite Rebbi Rebbi Aba Amar Rebbi Chanina Amar Rebbi. What did he say?

(b)What do the Kohanim then do with a lamp that burns longer than all the others?

9)

(a)Rebbi Avahu citing Rebbi Yochanan corroborates all that we just said. Others cite Rebbi Rebbi Aba Amar Rebbi Chanina Amar Rebbi, who said - exactly the same.

(b)If a lamp that burns longer than all the other lamps - it is allowed to burn until they extinguish the Ner ha'Ma'aravi, at which point they first extinguish *it*.

10)

(a)What did Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua Amar Rav Sheishes mean when he stated that the Menorah in the Beis-Hamikdash was made of Perakim?

(b)How does this connect with his interpretation of "Kikar" and "Mikshah" (in Tetzaveh)?

(c)What might Rav Sheishes have meant, other than that the lamps themselves were made in such a way that they could be moved without detaching them?

(d)Either way, what induced him to make such a statement in the first place?

10)

(a)When Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua Amar Rav Sheishes stated that the Menorah in the Beis-Hamikdash was made of Perakim - he was referring to the lamps, which were attached to the Menorah in such a way that they could be moved (but not detached).

(b)This is because he interprets "Kikar" and "Mikshah" (in Tetzaveh) - as pertaining to the lamps as well as to the Menorah.

(c)Other than that the lamps themselves were made in such a way that they could be moved without detaching them, Rav Sheishes might mean that - the lamps had caps, and it was they that were moveable (but not detachable).

(d)And he made this statement - because otherwise, how would the Kohanim be able to clean out the leftover oil and wicks each morning (during the ceremony of Hatavas Neiros).

11)

(a)Rav Sheishes however, clashes with a Beraisa. What does the Tana say about cleaning out the Menorah? How did the Kohanim used do it?

(b)How do we then reconcile Rav Sheishes with the Beraisa?

(c)And how do we amend the Beraisa Lo Hayu Mezizin osah mi'Mekomah (implying that they could have moved the lamps had they wanted to)?

(d)We equate the Chachamim in the Beraisa with Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok. How does Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok describe the cleaning out of the Menorah? What did the Kohanim do with the golden caps?

11)

(a)Rav Sheishes however, clashes with a Beraisa. According to the Tana - the Kohanim would actually remove the lamps in order to clean them out and replace the wicks and the oil.

(b)We reconcile Rav Sheishes with the Beraisa - by citing a Machlokes Tana'im (as we will now see).

(c)And we amend the Beraisa Lo Hayu Mezizin osah mi'Mekomah (implying that they could have removed the lamps had they wanted to) to - Lo Haysah Zazah (which implies that they could not be removed at all).

(d)We equate the Chachamim in the Beraisa with Rebbi Elazar b'Rebbi Tzadok, who, describing the cleaning of the Menorah, explains - how the Kohen would push the cap (which like the lamp, was made out of the same piece of gold as the Menorah itself) to a vertical position, and when pouring out the oil, he would push it back to cover the lamp (and pour in the oil via a hole in it). See Rashi, K'sav Yad.

12)

(a)According to the Tana Kama of the Beraisa, the Kikar that comprises the Menorah does not include its tweezers or its little shovels. What does Rebbi Nechemyah add to that?

(b)Rebbi Nechemyah himself however, says differently in a Beraisa. Based on the Pasuk in Tetzaveh "Kikar Zahav Tahor Ya'aseh Osah", what does he learn there from ...

1. ... "Eis Kol ha'Keilim ha'Eileh"?

2. ... "Osah"?

(c)How do we reconcile the discrepancy in Rebbi Nechemyah's two rulings?

12)

(a)According to the Tana Kama of the Beraisa, the Kikar that comprises the Menorah does not include its tweezers or its little shovels. Rebbi Nechemyah adds - the lamps.

(b)However, based on the Pasuk in Tetzaveh "Kikar Zahav Tahor Ya'aseh Osah" ...

1. ... from "Eis Kol ha'Keilim ha'Eileh" - Rebbi Nechemyah includes the lamps in the Kikar (and in the Din of Mikshah), and ...

2. ... from "Osah" - he precludes the tweezers and the little shovels from the Kikar of gold.

(c)We reconcile the discrepancy in Rebbi Nechemyah's two rulings - by turning it into a Machlokes Tana'im as to what Rebbi Nechemyah actually holds.

13)

(a)Rebbi Yehoshua ben Korchah disagrees with Rebbi Nechemyah's latter ruling. What does he learn from "Osah"?

(b)In that case, what does "Eis Kol ha'Keilim ha'Eileh" come to include?

(c)But do we not already know this from the Pasuk there "Ve'asisa es Neirosehah Shiv'ah ... u'Malkachehah u'Machtosehah Zahav Tahor"?

(d)Why do we need a Pasuk for this? Why might we have thought otherwise?

13)

(a)Rebbi Yehoshua ben Korchah disagrees with Rebbi Nechemyah's latter ruling. From "Osah" - he precludes the lamps, as well as the tweezers and the little shovels, from the Kikar of gold.

(b)Whereas "Eis Kol ha'Keilim ha'Eileh" - comes to include the accessories in the Din of gold.

(c)Indeed, we already know this from the Pasuk "Ve'asisa es Neirosehah Shiv'ah ... u'Malkachehah u'Machtosehah Zahav Tahor". Nevertheless, we need the Pasuk to teach us that even the location of the wick must be made of pure gold, too.

(d)Otherwise, we might have thought that - since that area anyway becomes black from the flame, it would be a waste of money to make it out of pure gold, since, as we learned recently, Hash-m generally spares Yisrael unnecessary monetary expense.

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