PEREK KODSHEI KADOSHIM
1)

WHEN DOES MEILAH APPLY?

(a)

Note: Mid'Oraisa, Meilah applies to Kodshei Kodashim while alive. After Zerikah, it applies to the Eimurim, but not to the meat permitted to Kohanim. Meilah does not apply to live Kodshim Kalim; after Zerikah, it applies to the Eimurim.

דף ב,א (משנה)
(b)

(Mishnah): Meilah applies to the following Kodshim (even though they are Pasul):

קדשי קדשים ששחטן בדרום מועלין בהן
1.

Kodshei Kodashim that were slaughtered in the south;

שחטן בדרום וקיבל דמן בצפון
2.

They were slaughtered in the south, but Kabalah was in the north;

בצפון וקיבל דמן בדרום
3.

They were slaughtered in the north, but Kabalah was in the south;

שחט ביום וזרק בלילה
4.

They were slaughtered during the daytime, but Zerikah was at night;

בלילה וזרק ביום
5.

They were slaughtered at night, but Zerikah was during the day;

או ששחטן חוץ לזמנו וחוץ למקומו מועלין בהן
6.

They were slaughtered (with intent to do subsequent Avodos or eat the meat) Chutz li'Zemano (after the permitted time) or Chutz li'Mekomo (outside the permitted place);

כלל א"ר יהושע כל שהיה לה שעת היתר לכהנים אין מועלין בה וכל שלא היה לה שעת היתר לכהנים מועלין בה
(c)

R. Yehoshua says, the general rule is, Meilah applies only if it was never permitted to Kohanim.

איזו היא שהיה לה שעת היתר לכהנים
1.

Question: What is considered to have had She'as Heter (a moment at which it was permitted to Kohanim)?

שלנה ושנטמאה ושיצאה
2.

Answer: The Korban (the Eimurim or meat) was left overnight, it became Tamei, or was Yotzei (it left its proper place, i.e. the Azarah or Yerushalayim);

ואיזו היא שלא היה לה שעת היתר לכהנים
3.

Question: What never had She'as Heter?

שנשחטה חוץ לזמנה חוץ למקומה ושקיבלו פסולין וזרקו את דמה:
4.

Answer: It was slaughtered (with intent of) Chutz li'Zemano or Chutz li'Mekomo, or disqualified Kohanim performed Kabalah and (they did) Zerikah (this will be explained).

קתני קדשי קדשים ששחטן בדרום מועלין בהן פשיטא משום דשחיטתן בדרום אפיקינון מידי מעילה
(d)

(Gemara) Question: It teaches that Meilah applies to Kodshei Kodashim slaughtered in the south. This is obvious, Shechitah in the south does not (remove the Kedushah of the Korban and thus) remove Meilah!

איצטריך
(e)

Answer: It is a Chidush;

סד"א הואיל ואמר עולא א"ר יוחנן קדשים שמתו יצאו מידי מעילה דבר תורה ה"נ קדשי קדשים לגבי דרום כמה דחנקינון דמי
1.

Ula taught that if Kodshim died (without Shechitah), Meilah does not apply to them mid'Oraisa. One might have thought that Shechitah in the south is like being choked to death;

קמ"ל קדשים שמתו לא חזו כלל אבל דרום נהי דאינו ראוי לקדשי קדשים אבל ראוי הוא לקדשים קלים
2.

The Mishnah teaches that this is not so. Kodshim that died are not Kosher for anything, but Shechitah in the south, although it invalidates Kodshei Kodashim, is valid for Kodshim Kalim. (Shitah - therefore, Im Alu Lo Yerdu (if they were brought on the Mizbe'ach, we do not take them down), so they are considered Kodshei Hash-m).

ל"ל למיתני כל הני
(f)

Question: Why do we need all the cases taught in the Mishnah?

צריכי
(g)

Answer: All are needed:

אי תנא שחטן בדרום וקיבל דמן בצפון הכא דאית בהו מעילה משום דקבלה בצפון הוא אבל שחטן בצפון וקיבל דמן בדרום הואיל וקיבל בדרום הוא נפיק מידי מעילה
1.

Had it taught only about Shechitah in the north and Kabalah in the south, one might have thought that then there is Meilah, because Kabalah (the primary Avodah) was (done properly,) in the north, but if it was slaughtered in the north and Kabalah was in the south, the primary Avodah was Pasul, so Meilah would not apply;

ואי תנא האי ה"א יממא זמן הקרבה הוא אבל שחטה בלילה וזרק ביום לילה לאו זמן הקרבה והאי דשחט בלילה [אימא] דנפיק מידי מעילה
2.

Had it taught only about Shechitah or Kabalah in the south, one might have thought that then there is Meilah, for everything was done during the day, the time for Hakravah (offering), but Meilah would not apply when Shechitah was at night and Zerikah during the day, for night is Pasul for Avodah;

ואי תנא שחטה בלילה ה"א הואיל וקבל דמה ביום אית בה מעילה אבל שחטן ביום וזרק דמן בלילה הואיל ולאו זמן הקרבה הוא כמאן דחנקינון דמי ולא אית בהו מעילה קמשמע לן
3.

Had it taught only about Shechitah at night, one might have thought that then there is Meilah, for Zerikah (the primary Avodah) was during the day, but if it was slaughtered during the day and Zerikah was at night; which is Pasul for Hakravah, it is as if the Korban was choked. The extra clause teaches this is not so, and Meilah does not apply.

חוץ לזמנו וחוץ למקומו למאי חזו
(h)

Version #1 (our text) Question: In what sense are Chutz li'Zemano and Chutz li'Mekomo proper? (Since there is Meilah for them, they must be proper in some way!)

הואיל ומרצין לפיגולין
(i)

Answer: (Proper Pigul, for which one who eats it is Chayav Kares, is only when all Avodos were completed properly, except for intent of Chutz li'Zemano.) Since Avodos done with intent Chutz li'Zemano are Meratzeh for Pigul (they enable the Korban to become Pigul, like proper Avodah), they do not uproot Meilah. (Chutz li'Mekomo is equated to Chutz li'Zemano. Alternatively, Chachamim often call a Korban 'Pigul' even if it was offered with intent Chutz li'Mekomo; really, it is only Pasul. Zerikas with intent Chutz li'Mekomo causes the Korban to be Pasul due to such Pigul.)

[[חוץ לזמנו וחוץ למקומו למאי חזו ]]
(j)

Version #2 (Tosfos) Question: Regarding Chutz li'Zemano and Chutz li'Mekomo, all agree that Lo Yerdu. Obviously Meilah applies!

[[הואיל ומרצין לפיגולין ]]
(k)

Answer: Since they are Meratzeh for Pigul, one might have thought that their Zerikah is valid to uproot Meilah. The Mishnah teaches that this is not so.

2b----------------------------------------2b
2)

MEILAH MID'RABANAN

(דף ב,ב) איבעיא להו אי עלו מהו שירדו
(a)

Question: Im Alu (if they were brought on the Mizbe'ach), do we take them down? (Rashi - we ask about all the Pesulim of our Mishnah. Tosfos - we discuss if Shechitah or Kabalah of Kodshei Kodashim was done in the south.)

רבה אמר אם עלו ירדו
(b)

Answer #1 (Rabah): Im Alu Yerdu (they are taken down).

רב יוסף אמר אם עלו לא ירדו
(c)

Answer #2 (Rav Yosef): Im Alu Lo Yerdu (they are not taken down).

אליבא דר' יהודה לא תיבעי לך דכ"ע ל"פ דאם עלו ירדו
1.

They do not argue according to R. Yehudah (who says Yerdu if the blood spilled, it was Lan, or was Yotzei). Also here, Yerdu;

כי פליגי אליבא דר"ש
2.

They argue according to R. Shimon (who says Lo Yerdu regarding anything brought on the Mizbe'ach).

רב יוסף כר"ש
3.

Rav Yosef holds like (the simple understanding of) R. Shimon;

רבה אמר לך עד כאן לא קאמר ר"ש אלא בניתנין למטה שנתנן למעלה או בניתנין למעלה שנתנן למטה ולעולם דשחטן וקבל דמן בצפון אבל הכא כיון דשחטן בדרום כמאן דחנקינון דמי
4.

Rabah says that R. Shimon refers only to things like blood put on the wrong half (upper or lower) of the Mizbe'ach if they were slaughtered in the north, but Shechitah in the south is like choking the animal to death. (Im Alu Yerdu).

תנן קדשי קדשים ששחטן בדרום מועלין בהן בשלמא לרב יוסף ניחא אלא לרבה קשיא
(d)

Question (against Rabah - Mishnah): Meilah applies to Kodshei Kodashim slaughtered in the south.

מאי מועלין בהן מדרבנן
(e)

Answer: The Meilah is mid'Rabanan.

מאי איכא בין דאורייתא לרבנן
(f)

Question: What is the difference between Meilah mid'Oraisa and mid'Rabanan?

דאורייתא משלמין חומש דרבנן לא
(g)

Answer: One adds a Chomesh (and brings an Asham) for Meilah mid'Oraisa, but not for Meilah mid'Rabanan.

ומי איכא מעילה מדרבנן
(h)

Question: Is there really Meilah mid'Rabanan (Tosfos - in a case like Shechitas Darom, which people anyway will stay away from)?

אין
(i)

Answer: Yes!

דאמר עולא א"ר יוחנן קדשים שמתו יצאו מידי מעילה דבר תורה
1.

(Ula): If Kodshim died (without Shechitah), Meilah does not apply to them mid'Oraisa.

אלמא מדאורייתא לא אית להון בדרבנן אית בהון
2.

Inference: Meilah does not apply mid'Oraisa, but it applies mid'Rabanan.

ה"נ מדרבנן
3.

Likewise, there is Meilah mid'Rabanan regarding Shechitas Darom. Rashi - the next questions are according to Rabah, who must give answer (e). Lechem Mishnah (Hilchos Pesulei ha'Mukdashin 3:7) - the Gemara accepted answer (e), and understands that according to everyone the Meilah in our Mishnah is mid'Rabanan. The following questions are according to everyone.)

לימא תנינא להא דעולא אמר רבי יוחנן
(j)

Question: We learn Ula's law from our Mishnah! (Why did he need to teach it?)

אף על גב דתנינא איצטריך דעולא
(k)

Answer: It was necessary to teach it;

סלקא דעתך אמינא הכא לא בדילין מנהון אבל קדשים שמתו הואיל ובדילין מנהון אימא אפילו מעילה מדרבנן לא קמ"ל
1.

One might have thought that there is Meilah mid'Rabanan here, for otherwise people would not stay away from it (so much), but in any case people stay away from Kodshim that died, so there is no need to decree Meilah mid'Rabanan. Ula teaches that this is not so.

מתו נמי תנינא
(l)

Question: Another Mishnah teaches about Kodshim that died (that there is (Shitah; Rashi - is no) Meilah mid'Rabanan)!

הנהנה מן החטאת כשהיא חיה לא מעל עד שיפגום
1.

(Mishnah): If one benefits a Perutah from a live Chatas, he is not Mo'el unless he is Pogem it (decreases its value; Rashi - it is a Ba'al Mum, it has Kedushas Damim);

וכשהיא מתה כיון דנהנה כל שהוא מעל
2.

If one benefits (a Perutah's worth) from a dead Chatas, he is as Mo'el (mid'Rabanan, even if he is not Pogem it - it lacks Kedushas Damim, for it cannot be redeemed).

סלקא דעתך (דף ג,א) אמינא חטאת הואיל ולכפרה קא אתיא לא בדילין מינה אבל קדשים הואיל ולאו לכפרה קאתי בדילי מנהון ולית בהו מעילה
3.

Version #1 (Rashi): We assume that this applies only to Chatas, for it is for Kaparah, people do not stay away from it, but other Korbanos are not (primarily) for Kaparah, people are careful to stay away from them, Meilah does not apply to them!

קמ"ל
(m)

Answer: Regarding other Korbanos, (people do not stay away from them while alive, so) all the more so Meilah applies to them.

[[סלקא דעתך אמינא חטאת הואיל ולכפרה קא אתיא לא בדילין מינה אבל קדשים הואיל ולאו לכפרה קאתי בדילי מנהון ולית בהו מעילה קמ"ל ]]
(n)

Version #2A (Shitah) Answer: One might have thought that this applies only to Chatas, for it is for Kaparah, so people do not stay away from it, but other Korbanos are not for Kaparah, so people stay away from them, and Meilah would not apply to them. Ula teaches that this is not so.

[[סלקא דעתך אמינא חטאת הואיל ולכפרה קא אתיא לא בדילין מינה אבל קדשים הואיל ולאו לכפרה קאתי בדילי מנהון ולית בהו מעילה קמ"ל ]]
(o)

Version #2B (Shitah) Answer: One might have thought that this applies only to a Ba'al Mum, for it is not for Kaparah, people do not stay away from it, but Tam Kodshim are for Kaparah, so people stay away from them, and Meilah would not apply to them. Ula teaches that this is not so.