1)

(a)What did Rav reply when Rav Kahana asked him ...

1. ... whether a cat is Doreis?

2. ... whether a weasel is Doreis?

3. ... whether a cat and a weasel are Doreis or not?

(b)How do we interpret ...

1. ... his first answer?

2. ... his second answer?

3. ... his third answer?

1)

(a)When Rav Kahana asked Rav ...

1. ... whether a cat is Doreis, he replied that - even a weasel is.

2. ... whether a weasel is Doreis, he replied that - even a cat is not.

3. ... whether a cat and a weasel are Doreis or not he replied that - a cat is Doreis but a weasel is not.

(b)We interpret ...

1. ... his first answer - with regard to birds.

2. ... his second answer - with regard to sheep and rams.

3. ... his third answer - with regard to lambs and kids.

2)

(a)Rav Ashi asked whether other Tamei birds (besides those mentioned in our Mishnah) are Doreis or not (seeing as they too, are birds of prey). What did Rav Hillel quote Rav Kahana as having said in this regard?

(b)What problem do we have with that from our Mishnah?

(c)One answer is that a Netz is Doreis birds the same size as itself, whereas other Tamei birds are only Doreis birds that are smaller than themselves. What is the other answer?

2)

(a)Rav Ashi asked whether other Tamei birds (besides those mentioned in our Mishnah) are Doreis or not (seeing as they too, are birds of prey). Rav Hillel quoted Rav Kahana as having ruled that - they are.

(b)The problem we have with that from our Mishnah is - that the Tana says 'u'Derusas ha'Netz be'Of ha'Dak' (implying that other small Tamei birds are not Doreis).

(c)One answer to this Kashya is that a Netz is Doreis birds the same size as itself, whereas other Tamei birds are only Doreis birds that are smaller than themselves birds are only Doreis birds that are smaller than themselves. The other answer is that - a Netz is Doreis even birds that are larger than itself, whereas other Tamei birds are only Doreis birds of their own size.

3)

(a)According to Rav Kahana in the name of Rav Shimi bar Ashi, a fox is not Doreis. When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael, what episode did he relate about a fox and a sheep that took place in the bathhouse of Beis Hini?

(b)And what did the Chachamim rule there?

(c)How does Rav Safra reconcile Rav Kahana with that?

(d)In the second Lashon, Rav Kahana cited Rav Shimi bar Ashi as saying that a fox is Doreis. How does Rav Safra reconcile that with Rav Dimi, who cited the Chachamim, who rule Ein D'rusah? What was he referring to this time?

(e)What does Rav Yosef say about a dog?

3)

(a)According to Rav Kahana in the name of Rav Shimi bar Ashi, a fox is not Doreis. When Rav Dimi arrived from Eretz Yisrael however, he related the episode of a fox that - clawed a sheep in the bathhouse of Beis Hini ...

(b)... and the Chachamim ruled that the sheep was T'reifah.

(c)Rav Safra reconciles Rav Kahana with that - by amending the case from a fox to a cat.

(d)In the second Lashon, Rav Kahana cited Rav Shimi bar Ashi as saying that a fox is Doreis. Rav Safra reconciles this with Rav Dimi, who cited the Chachamim, who ruled 'Ein D'rusah' - by amending Rav Dimi's case (from a fox) to a dog, which is not Doreis ...

(e)... as Rav Yosef maintains.

4)

(a)What is Abaye coming to preclude, when he confines D'risah to ...

1. ... the Yad (foreleg)?

2. ... a claw?

(b)What third condition does he add for the D'risah to be effective?

(c)What problem do we have with Abaye's fourth condition 'Ein D'risah Ela me'Chayim'?

(d)How do we therefore interpret me'Chayim? What is Abaye coming to teach us?

(e)Why is that?

4)

(a)When Abaye confines D'risah to ...

1. ... the Yad (foreleg), he is coming to preclude - the Regel (the hind-leg).

2. ... a claw - he is coming to preclude the tooth (inasmuch as biting does not have the Din of D'risah).

(b)The third condition that he adds for the D'risah to be effective - is that the animal must perform D'risah willingly (and not be'O'neis).

(c)The problem with Abaye's fourth condition 'Ein D'risah Ela me'Chayim' is that - in light of his previous statement 'Ein D'risah Ela mi'Da'as', it is obvious?

(d)What Abaye really means however, is (not that the animal, but) that the claw must be alive at the time that it is withdrawn from the victim's body, to preclude a case where it is withdrawn after it has been severed ...

(e)... because the animal only injects its poison at the time of withdrawal, not at the time of clawing.

5)

(a)If, after a lion enters a herd of oxen, a detached claw is subsequently discovered in one of the animal's backs, Rabah bar Rav Huna Amar Rav rules that the ox is not T'reifah (See Ya'avetz). Why is that?

(b)How do we query Rav's reasoning, based on the fact that most oxen tend to scratch against walls?

(c)How do we resolve the query? On what other principle of Rav is his first ruling based?

5)

(a)If, after a lion enters a herd of oxen, a detached claw is subsequently discovered in one of the animal's backs, Rabah bar Rav Huna Amar Rav rules that the ox is not T'reifah - since the majority of lions' claws do not become detached whilst clawing their prey and this one did, we assume that it caught the lion's claw whilst scratching itself against a wall (which is more likely to have happened [see also Tosfos DH 'Rov']).

(b)We query Rav's reasoning however, based on the fact that most oxen tend to scratch against walls - without ending up with lions' claws embedded in their backs, in which case, this ox must have must have been clawed by a lion.

(c)We resolve the query - by citing a principle of Rav, which we will discuss shortly Ein Chosh'shin le'Safek D'rusah (which is what this case is).

6)

(a)Abaye qualifies Rav's basic ruling, by differentiating between an actual claw and a claw-mark (which is T'reifah, since the claw did not become detached). How does he then qualify ...

1. ... Rav's ruling regarding the claw? When will even an actual claw embedded in the ox's back render it T'reifah?

2. ... Rav's ruling regarding a claw that is still fresh? When will he declare even wet claws T'reifah?

3. ... this latter ruling? Under what circumstances will he declare even five claws embedded in an ox's back, Kasher?

(b)Rav holds Ein Chosh'shin le'Safek D'rusah. What does Shmuel say?

(c)They both agree however, that if we are not certain that the lion even entered the herd, Ein Chosh'shin and all the animals are Kasher. What will they say in a case where ...

1. ... an animal attacks a flock of lambs and we are not sure whether it was a dog or a cat that attacked them?

2. ... a lion entered a herd of oxen, and both the lion and the oxen are silent?

3. ... the lion severed the head of one of the oxen?

4. ... the lion is roaring and the oxen are lowing?

(d)In which case then, do Rav and Shmuel argue?

6)

(a)Abaye qualifies Rav's basic ruling by differentiating between an actual claw and the mark of a claw (which is T'reifah, since the claw did not become detached). He qualifies ...

1. ... even Rav's ruling regarding the claw - by confining it to a fresh claw. If the claw is dry, then the ox is T'reifah, because dry claws tend to fall out easily, in which case the lion probably did claw it.

2. ... Rav's ruling regarding a claw that is still fresh - by confining to where only one claw is found embedded in the ox's back; but if they found two or three, then the ox is T'reifah.

3. ... this latter ruling - by confining it to where the five embedded claws are found in the shape of a paw. If they are not, then the ox is Kasher.

(b)Rav holds Ein Chosh'shin le'Safek D'rusah. Shmuel holds - Chosh'shin.

(c)They both agree that if we are not certain that the lion even entered the herd, Ein Chosh'shin and all the animals are Kasher - and the same applies in a case where ...

1. ... an animal attacked a flock of lambs and we are not sure whether it was a dog or a cat that attacked them, and where ...

2. ... a lion entered a herd of oxen, and both the lion and the oxen are silent - since it is not uncommon for the lion to befriend a herd of oxen, and where ...

3. ... the lion severed the head of one of the oxen - because then the lion's anger has abated, and it will do no further harm to the herd at this point, and where ...

4. ... the lion is roaring and the oxen are lowing - because evidently, both the lion and the oxen are afraid of each other.

(d)Rav and Shmuel are arguing over a case - where the lion is silent and the oxen are lowing, which according to Shmuel, is a sign that the lion has clawed one of them, whereas according to Rav, it means that they are afraid that it is about to do so.

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7)

(a)Like whom does Ameimar rule regarding Safek D'rusah'?

(b)When Rav Ashi asked Ameimar what he did with Rav's opinion, one answer he gave was that he did not hold like him. What is the second answer?

(c)And he supported this with an episode that took place in Neherda'a. What did Rav do with the basket-full of birds that had been attacked by a sparrow-hawk that was brought before him?

(d)What did Shmuel subsequently do with them?

7)

(a)Ameimar rules - like Shmuel ('Hilch'sa Chosh'shin le'Safek D'rusah').

(b)When Rav Ashi asked Ameimar what he did with Rav's opinion, one answer he gave was that he did not hold like him. The other that - Rav himself retracted from his original opinion.

(c)He supported this with an episode that took place in Neherda'a, where a basket-full of birds that had been attacked by a sparrow-hawk was brought before Rav, who promptly sent it to Shmuel ...

(d)... who subsequently broke their necks and threw them into the river.

8)

(a)How did Ameimar try to prove from there that Rav conceded that Shmuel was right?

(b)How do we counter the retort that if he had retracted, why did he not simply declare the birds T'reifah?

(c)How does this prove that he retracted? Bearing in mind that Neherda'a was Shmuel's territory, had he not retracted, what should he have ...

1. ... done?

2. ... not have done?

(d)On what principle is this latter answer based?

(e)How will we explain the outcome of the Gemara, according to the (preferred) text '*Ela* Asra di'Shmuel havah'?

8)

(a)Ameimar tried to prove from there that Rav conceded that Shmuel was right - because otherwise, why did he not declare them Kasher?

(b)And we counter the retort that if he had retracted, why did he not simply declare the birds T'reifah - because Neherda'a was Shmuel's territory, and Rav would not have issued rulings there with regard to something which they held in common.

(c)This proves that he retracted - because if he hadn't, he would not have sent the birds to Shmuel, even though Neherda'a was Shmuel's territory, seeing as in his opinion, the birds were permitted, and he knew that Shmuel would forbid them on the owners ... he ought therefore ...

1. ... to have declined to answer.

2. ... not to have sent them to Shmuel ...

(d)... based on the principle that, in a case that involves the slightest sin (such as here, where, according to Rav it would have meant causing a Yisrael a loss), one does not give Kavod to the Rav.

(e)According to the (preferred) text '*Ela* Asra di'Shmuel Havah', what the Gemara means is that - there is no proof that Rav retracted, and the reason that Rav sent the basket before Shmuel, was because it was Shmuel's territory (irrespective of what he himself held).

9)

(a)Why did Shmuel not ...

1. ... throw the birds into the river as they were? Why did he make a point of breaking their necks first?

2. ... leave them for twelve months to see whether they would survive or not (like the Din by Safek T'reifah, as we will see later), and if they did, declare them Kasher?

3. ... sell them to Nochrim?

4. ... break their necks and throw them on to the trash-heap?

(b)A goose entered among the canes growing in the river and emerged with its neck bloodied. What was the Safek?

(c)On what basis did Rav Ashi declare it Kasher?

9)

(a)Shmuel did not ...

1. ... throw the birds into the river as they were (but made a point of breaking their necks first) - because he was afraid that they would escape and get caught by hunters, who would sell them to Yisre'elim.

2. ... leave them for twelve months to see whether they would survive or not (like the Din by Safek T'reifah, as we will see later), and if they did, declare them Kasher - because there were a lot of birds involved, and he was afraid that the owner would not be able to ensure that none of them would inadvertently be taken and Shechted in the course of the year.

3. ... sell them to Nochrim - because they would then sell them to Yisre'elim.

4. ... break their necks and throw them on to the trash-heap - because he wanted to publicize his ruling, and throwing them into the river resulted more publicity.

(b)A goose entered among the canes growing in the river and emerged with its neck bloodied. The Safek was - whether the canes had pierced it (in which case it was a Safek Nekuvah) or a cat (and it was a Safek D'rusah), which can be T'reifah even if it does not pierce the entire Veshet.

(c)Rav Ashi declared it Kasher - on the basis of the case where it is a Safek whether it was a cat or a dog that attacked a lamb, and which we ascribe to a dog and declare Kasher; so too here, we ascribe it to the canes (and as long as the hole had not pierced right through to the Veshet, the goose was Kasher.

10)

(a)The b'nei Rebbi Chiya required examination of a D'rusah's intestines. What did they mean by a D'rusah?

(b)Rav Yosef pointed out that b'nei Rebbi Chiya's ruling was nothing new. In which Tana's name did Shmuel already issue the same ruling?

(c)When Ilfa asked whether Yesh D'rusah le'Simanim, Rebbi Zeira cited Rav Chanan bar Rava. What did Rav Chanan bar Rava say about the examination of a D'rusah? How did that resolve Ilfa's She'eilah?

10)

(a)The b'nei Rebbi Chiya required examination of a D'rusah's intestines. By a D'rusah, they meant - either a Safek whether a lion clawed an animal, or even if it did, but we are unsure whether it clawed it in a location that renders it T'reifah or not.

(b)Rav Yosef pointed out that the b'nei Rebbi Chiya ruling was nothing new, because Shmuel already issued this same ruling - citing Rebbi Chanina ben Gamliel.

(c)When Ilfa asked whether Yesh D'rusah le'Simanim or not, Rebbi Zeira cited Rav Chanan bar Rava - who said that the entire abdominal cavity requires Bedikah (which does not incorporate the neck area or the thighs), but then added 'even the Simanim', thereby resolving Ilfa's She'eilah.

11)

(a)What did Ilfa mean when he asked further Simanim she'Nidald'lu be'Kamah?'?

(b)Once again, Rebbi Zeira cited others who already dealt with Ilfa's She'eilah. What did Rabah bar bar Chanah rule in this regard?

11)

(a)When Ilfa asked further Simanim she'Nidald'lu be'Kamah? - he meant to ask what the Shi'ur is regarding Simanim that have been torn away from the neck in a number of places.

(b)Once again, Rebbi Zeira cited others who already dealt with Ilfa's She'eilah, since Rabah bar bar Chanah ruled that - if those places add up to a majority, the animal is T'reifah; otherwise not.

12)

(a)This time it was Rav Ami on whom Rebbi Zeira made his comment. What did Rav Ami mean when he asked 'Hismasmah Mahu'?

(b)And it was Rav Yehudah Amar Rav whom Rebbi Zeira quoted. What distinction did Rav Yehudah make between intestines and a thigh that has been clawed?

(c)How does Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua define Nismasmes? By which limb for example, would the animal be considered T'reifah?

(d)What did Rav Ashi rule, when a lung was brought before him which seemed normal whilst it was lying down, but which fell to pieces when they picked it up?

12)

(a)This time it was Rav Ami on whom Rebbi Zeira made his comment. When Rav Ami asked 'Hismasmah Mahu' - he meant to ask what the Din will be if the lion clawed the ox's thigh, and the flesh began to rot at that spot.

(b)And it was Rav Yehudah Amar Rav whom Rebbi Zeira quoted, who ruled that - as far the flesh that is adjacent to the intestines is concerned, the animal is T'reifah as soon as it turns red; whereas the flesh of the thigh only renders the animal T'reifah when it begins to rot.

(c)Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua defines Nismasmes as - where the vet scrapes it away until he reaches healthy flesh (giving it the Din of Netulah). This would render the animal a T'reifah by the Tzomes ha'Gidin (the junction of the nerves in the hind leg).

(d)When a lung was brought before Rav Ashi, which seemed normal whilst it was lying down, but which fell to pieces when they picked it up he ruled that - it was T'reifah, based on the ruling of Rav Huna b'rei de'Rav Yehoshua.

13)

(a)Rav Nachman rules that if a thorn pierces right through to the abdominal cavity, the animal is T'reifah. Why is that?

(b)Why do the intestines not first require Bedikah?

(c)What does he say about a D'rusah?

(d)Rav Z'vid agrees with Rav Nachman's latter ruling. What does he say about D'rusas ha'Simanim?

(e)Why the difference?

13)

(a)Rav Nachman rules that if a thorn pierces right through to the abdominal cavity, the animal is T'reifah - because we are afraid that it punctured the intestines.

(b)Nor is there any point in performing Bedikah - because a small hole is not discernible in the intestines.

(c)A D'rusah on the other hand, requires Bedikah - and is only T'reifah if the adjacent flesh has turned red.

(d)Rav Z'vid agrees with Rav Nachman's latter ruling. Regarding D'rusas ha'Simanim however, he rules that - the Simanim themselves must have turned red for the animal to be T'reifah ...

(e)... because the Simanim are hard and, unless they have turned red, they are not generally affected by D'risah.

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