BAVA KAMA 57 (17 Shevat 5784) - Dedicated by Mrs. Idelle Rudman in memory of Harav Reuven Moshe Rudman ben Harav Yosef Tuvia Rudman on his Yahrzeit.

1)

(a)What does the Beraisa say about returning a lost article to a place where the owner will see it?

(b)If it got stolen or lost, the Tana continues, the finder is liable. Why does this pose a Kashya on Rabah (who holds that a Shomer Aveidah is a Shomer Chinam)?

(c)How does Rabah therefore establish the Seifa of the Beraisa?

(d)But how can the Tana now obligate him, when in the Reisha, he has just exempted him for the same thing?

1)

(a)The Beraisa rules that if someone returns a lost article to a place where the owner will see it he is no longer responsible for it.

(b)If it got stolen or lost, the Tana continues, the finder is liable posing a Kashya on Rabah (who holds that a Shomer Aveidah is a Shomer Chinam) because we assume it to be an independent case, meaning that if the article got stolen or lost from his house, he is liable to pay. That being the case, a Shomer Aveidah is clearly a Shomer Sachar, like Rav Yosef.

(c)Rabah therefore establishes the Seifa of the Beraisa as a continuation of the Reisha (where the animal was stolen from the place where he returned it).

(d)The Tana obligates him here, even though he appears to have just exempted him for the same thing because whereas in the Reisha, he returned the article in the morning, (when the owner will generally see it), the Seifa is speaking where he returned it in the afternoon (when he will not).

2)

(a)Rav Yosef queries Rabah from another Beraisa 'Le'olam Hu Chayav ad she'Yachzirenah li'Reshuso'. What does 'Le'olam' come to include?

(b)How does Rabah reconcile his opinion with this Beraisa?

2)

(a)Rav Yosef queries Rabah from another Beraisa 'Le'olam Hu Chayav ad she'Yachzirenah li'Reshuso'. 'Le'olam comes to include where the article was stolen from the finder's house (indicating that he is a Shomer Sachar), a Kashya on Rabah.

(b)Rabah reconciles his opinion with this Beraisa too by stressing that this Tana refers specifically to a lost animal. Having strayed from its owner once, the finder should have known that it is likely to stray again, and he is Chayav, because not guarding against such a likelihood is considered negligence.

3)

(a)If the Pasuk "Hashev ... l'Achicha" obligates the finder of a lost article to return it to the owner, why does the Torah add the word "Teshivem"?

(b)On what grounds does Rabah establish this Beraisa by an unguarded garden (though not an open one)? What is then the Kashya on Rav Yosef?

(c)Rav Yosef however, establishes the Beraisa by a guarded garden or ruin, and the need to include them is based on a statement of Rebbi Elazar. What distinction does Rebbi Elazar draw between a lost article and other things that one returns?

(d)What does 'other things that one returns' incorporate, besides a thief and a robber?

3)

(a)The Pasuk "Hashev ... l'Achicha" obligates the finder of a lost article to return it to the owner. The Torah adds the word "Teshivem", says the Beraisa to permit the finder to return it even to the owner's garden or ruin.

(b)Rabah establishes this Beraisa by an unguarded garden because otherwise, there would be no difference between it and a house, in which case there would be no point in including it. This poses a Kashya on Rav Yosef who considers a Shomer Aveidah a Shomer Sachar, who is required to guard the article properly.

(c)Rav Yosef however, establishes the Beraisa by a guarded garden or ruin (though not an open one) and the Pasuk nevertheless needs to include them to teach us that a lost article may be returned without the knowledge of the owner, unlike other cases ...

(d)... such as a thief a robber and the four Shomrim.

4)

(a)What is the basis for Rebbi Elazar's distinction between a lost article and other things?

4)

(a)Rebbi Elazar's distinction between a lost article and other things is based on the fact that the Torah uses a double expression "Hashev Teshivem" which comes to include additional ways of returning a lost article (as we just learned in the Beraisa).

5)

(a)A 'To'en Ta'anas Ganav' by a Pikadon is Chayav to pay double. What is a 'To'en Ta'anas Ganav'?

(b)What did Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about a 'To'en Ta'anas Ganav' by a Shomer Aveidah?

(c)Abaye asked Rav Yosef how he would reconcile his opinion (that a Shomer Aveidah is a Shomer Sachar) with Rebbi Yochanan. How did he establish the case to answer the Kashya?

(d)And what did he reply when Abaye commented that an armed robber is a Gazlan (who does not pay double - only a To'en Ta'anas Ganav)?

5)

(a)A 'To'en Ta'anas Ganav' (someone who counters an allegation that he still has the Pikadon in his possession, by alleging [and swearing] that the article has been stolen, and it is subsequently discovered that he is the thief) by a Pikadon is Chayav to pay double.

(b)Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yochanan says that a 'To'en Ta'anas Ganav' by a Shomer Aveidah is Chayav just like he is by a Pikadon.

(c)When Abaye queried Rav Yosef (that a Shomer Aveidah is a Shomer Sachar) from Rebbi Yochanan, he replied by establishing the case by an armed robber, who is Patur because it is considered an Ones.

(d)And when Abaye commented that an armed robber is a Gazlan (who does not fall under the category of To'en Ta'anas Ganav), he replied that, in his opinion an armed robber is a Ganav (because he hides from people before attacking them).

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6)

(a)What Chumra does the Beraisa state that a Shomer Chinam has over a Shomer Sachar?

(b)What Kashya does this pose on Rav Yosef's latest statement?

(c)How will Rav Yosef then explain the Beraisa?

6)

(a)The Chumra stated by the Beraisa of a Shomer Chinam over a Shomer Sachar is that whereas he swears by To'en Ta'anas Ganav and pays double should he turn out to have sworn falsely, a Shomer Sachar pays immediately (consequently, he does not swear and never has to pay double) ...

(b)... a Kashya on Rav Yosef's latest statement is because if, as Rav Yosef maintains, an armed robber is considered a Ganav, then we have a case of a Shomer Sachar who also pays double (by To'en Ta'anas Listim Mezuyan [who is an Ones as we just explained]).

(c)Rav Yosef therefore explains that when the Tana says that a Shomer Sachar does not pay double, he means that (unlike a Shomer Chinam, who always pays double when he claims that the article was stolen), he only pays double by To'en Ta'anas Listim Mezuyan, but not by To'en Ta'anas Ganav.

7)

(a)The Torah obligates a Sho'el to pay if he claims that an Ones occurred. From where does the Beraisa learn that he is also liable if the article got stolen or lost?

(b)What 'Pircha' do we ask on the Beraisa (particularly on the concluding words 'This is a 'Kal va'Chomer' that is 'Pircha-free')? Which Chumra does a Shomer Sachar have over a Sho'el?

(c)Why is this a Kashya on Rav Yosef?

(d)How do we refute the Pircha? What makes a Sho'el more stringent notwithstanding?

7)

(a)The Torah obligates a Sho'el to pay if he alleges that an Ones occurred. The Beraisa learns that he is also Chayav if the article got stolen or lost from a 'Kal va'Chomer' from a Shomer Sachar, who is Patur from Ones, yet he is Chayav for theft or loss, i which case a Sho'el, who is Chayav for Ones, should certainly be liable for theft or loss.

(b)We ask on the Beraisa however (particularly on the concluding words 'This is a 'Kal va'Chomer' that is 'Pircha-free') that if an armed robber is a Ganav, then a Shomer Sachar has a Chumra over Sho'el, inasmuch as a To'en Ta'anas Ganav pays double, whereas a Sho'el does not.

(c)This is a Kashya on Rav Yosef because according to Abaye (and presumably Rabah), who holds that an armed robber has the Din of a Gazlan (who does not pay double), this would not be a Pircha.

(d)We refute the Pircha however on the grounds that a Sho'el is still more stringent than a Shomer Sachar, because having to paying the principle immediately is considered more stringent than having to pay double but only after having sworn falsely.

8)

(a)In a case where Reuven rents a cow from Shimon and it is stolen, and Reuven volunteers to pay (even though he has the option to swear), what does the Beraisa rule if the thief is then found?

(b)What can we extrapolate from the fact that the Beraisa speaks about Reuven volunteering to pay?

(c)What made the Rabanan initially establish the Beraisa by an armed robber? How do they view every Socher?

8)

(a)In a case where Reuven hires a cow from Shimon and it is stolen, and Reuven volunteers to pay (even though he has the option to swear), if the thief is then found the Beraisa rules that he pays double to the Socher.

(b)From the fact that the Beraisa speaks about Reuven volunteering to pay, we can extrapolate that had he wanted, he could have exempted himself by swearing.

(c)The Rabanan initially established the Beraisa by an armed robber because they assumed that a Socher has the same Din as a Shomer Sachar (like Rebbi Yehudah), and that consequently, had he just alleged that the article was stolen, he would not have been able to swear, because he would have been Chayav to pay.

9)

(a)We could answer the Kashya by establishing the Beraisa like Rebbi Meir. What does Rebbi Meir say?

(b)How is it possible to establish the Beraisa even like Rebbi Yehudah? How did Rabah bar Avuha establish the Machlokes Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah?

(c)Rebbi Zeira even establishes the Beraisa like Rebbi Yehudah, who considers a Socher like a Shomer Sachar. Seeing as we are still speaking when the Shomer alleged that the article was stolen by an armed robber, how is it then possible for the thief to have subsequently had to pay double?

9)

(a)We could answer the Kashya by establishing the Beraisa like Rebbi Meir who considers a Socher like a Shomer Chinam (who swears and is exempt from paying when he alleges that the article was stolen).

(b)It is possible however, to establish the Beraisa even like Rebbi Yehudah by following the opinion of Rabah bar Avuha, who switches the opinions of Rebbi Meir and Rebbi Yehudah ('Socher Keitzad Meshalem? Rebbi Meir Omer k'Shomer Sachar, Rebbi Yehudah Omer k'Shomer Chinam').

(c)Rebbi Zeira even establishes the Beraisa like Rebbi Yehudah, who considers a Socher like a Shomer Sachar. In spite of the fact that we are still speaking when the Shomer alleges that the article was stolen by an armed robber, it is nevertheless possible for the thief to have subsequently had to pay double in a case where, when the thief was eventually caught, it transpired that he was a plain thief and not an armed robber at all.

10)

(a)How does Rav qualify the Din in our Mishnah 'Naflah l'Ginah, v'Nehenis, Meshalemes Mah she'Nehenis'? What sort of Hana'ah is the Tana referring to, according to Rav?

(b)What does Rav say in a case where the fruit that Reuven brought into Shimon's Chatzer without permission and that his animal subsequently ate, gave it diarrhea?

(c)On what grounds do we reject the suggestion that Rav here follows his reasoning there?

(d)So what did Rav really say?

10)

(a)Rav qualifies the Din in our Mishnah 'Naflah l'Ginah, v'Nehenis, Meshalemes Mah she'Nehenis' by establishing the Mishnah when the benefit that the sheep received when it fell was from the produce on which it landed which broke his fall (and which got spoilt i the process).

(b)Rav says that in a case where the fruit that Reuven brought into Shimon's Chatzer without permission and that his animal subsequently ate, gave it diarrhea Reuven is Patur, because nobody asked it to eat the fruit.

(c)We reject the suggestion that Rav here follows his reasoning there because that Sevara holds water when it is the Nizak that ate the fruit, but not the Mazik.

(d)What Rav therefore said was that the Tana obligates the owner of the sheep to pay for the Hana'ah even if it benefited from the produce as it landed (for reasons that we shall now see), but certainly if it ate it after it landed.