BAVA BASRA 2-8 - Two weeks of study material have been dedicated by Mrs. Estanne Abraham Fawer to honor the Yahrzeit of her father, Rav Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Rabbi Morton Weiner) Z'L, who passed away on 18 Teves 5760. May the merit of supporting and advancing Dafyomi study -- which was so important to Rav Weiner -- during the weeks of his Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.

1)

(a)On what grounds did Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak object when Rav Chanan bar Rav Chisda (or Rav Huna) levied a head-tax on the Rabbanan?

(b)How does he (in conjunction with the Beraisa quoted by Rav Yosef) interpret the Pasuk in ve'Zos ha'Berachah ...

1. ... "Af Chovev Amim, Kol Kedoshav be'Yadecha"?

2. ... "ve'heim Tuku le'Raglecha"?

3. ... "Yisa mi'Dabrosecha"?

(c)How does Ula explain the Pasuk in Hoshe'a ...

1. ... "Gam ki Yisnu va'Goyim, Atah Akabtzem"?

2. ... "va'Yachelu Me'at mi'Masa Melech ve'Sarim"?

(d)In the Pasuk in Ezra, Daryavesh instructed the officer of Eiver ha'Nahar to release the Anshei Keneses ha'Gedolah from "Mindah, V'lo ve'Halach". What is ...

1. ... "Mindah"?

2. ... "V'lo"?

3. ... "Halach"?

1)

(a)When Rav Chanan bar Rav Chisda (or Rav Huna) levied a head-tax on the Rabbanan, Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak objected on the grounds that - this tax was for the purpose of protection, and the Rabbanan do not require human protection.

(b)In conjunction with the Beraisa quoted by Rav Yosef), he interprets the Pasuk in ve'Zos ha'Berachah ...

1. ... "Af Chovev Amim, Kol Kedoshav be'Yadecha" to mean - that even when Hash-m endears the nations of the world (by giving them jurisdiction over Yisrael), their holy ones (the Torah-scholars) remain in His Hands.

2. ... "ve'heim Tuku le'Raglecha" - that they 'break their legs, traveling from place to place to study Torah.

3. ... "Yisa mi'Dabrosecha" - in order to indulge in the Masa u'Matan (the intellectual interchange) of Torah-study.

(c)Ula explains the Pasuk in Hoshe'a ...

1. ... "Gam ki Yisnu va'Goyim, Atah Akabtzem" to mean - that when Yisrael study ("Yisnu" is an Arama'ic word like 'Masnisin') Torah, Hash-m will redeem them.

2. ... "va'Yachelu Me'at mi'Masa Melech ve'Sarim" - that even if there are only a few that learn Torah, they will be released from paying taxes.

(d)In the Pasuk in Ezra, Daryavesh instructed the officer of Eiver ha'Nahar to release the Anshei Keneses ha'Gedolah from ...

1. ... "Mindah" - the king's tax.

2. ... "V'lo" - a head-tax

3. ... "Halach" - an annual tax on crops and animals.

2)

(a)On what grounds did Rav Shisha b'rei de'Rav Idi object when Rav Papa levied a tax on Yesomim for a new well that they were about to dig?

(b)How did Rav Papa justify what he had done?

(c)Everyone is obligated to pay towards new gates for the town walls, says Rav Yehudah, even Yesomim. Who are the sole exceptions?

(d)Even the Rabbanan however, are obligated to participate towards funding a new well. Under which circumstances are they Patur even from that?

2)

(a)When Rav Papa levied a tax on Yesomim (Ketanim) for a new well that they were about to dig, Rav Shisha b'rei de'Rav Idi objected on the grounds - that if no water were to flow into the well, the Yesomim would have been charged in vain, and Yesomim are not able to be Mochel (forgive).

(b)Rav Papa justified what he had done however - by assuring Rav Shisha that if no water flowed into the well, the Yesomim's money would be refunded.

(c)Everyone is obligated to pay towards new gates for the town walls, says Rav Yehudah, even Yesomim - with the sole exception of Talmidei-Chachamim (as we explained earlier).

(d)Even the Rabbanan however, are obligated to participate towards funding a new well - but not towards actually digging it, as we learned in Bava Metzi'a.

3)

(a)Rebbi opened the storehouses in a year of drought. Whom did he preclude from receiving food when he announced that the Ba'alei Mikra, Ba'alei Mishnah, Ba'alei Gemara, Ba'alei Halachah and Ba'alei Agadah were permitted entry?

(b)Why was that?

(c)What made him eventually open his storehouse to everyone?

(d)What was Rebbi's reaction, before being informed that the recipient concerned was his disciple?

3)

(a)Rebbi opened the storehouses in a year of drought. When he announced that the Ba'alei Mikra, Ba'alei Mishnah, Ba'alei Gemara, Ba'alei Halachah and Ba'alei Agadah were permitted entry, he precluded - the Amei-ha'Aretz ...

(b)... because, he claimed, they were responsible for all (collective) punishments in the world.

(c)He eventually opened the storehouse to everyone - when his Talmid Yonasan ben Amram, in his humility, was very nearly refused assistance (as we are now about to see.

(d)Rebbi's reaction, before being informed that the recipient concerned was his disciple was - one of utter dismay, that he had sustained an Am ha'Aretz in time of famine.

4)

(a)Why did Yonasan ben Amram claim that he had not even learned Chumash?

(b)He expected to be sustained like a dog and like a raven. Why specifically those two animals?

(c)What happened ...

1. ... when Rebbi initially refused to allow the Rabanan of Teverya to participate in the payment of a special tax to pay for a new crown for the king?

2. ... after half the Amei-ha'Aretz fled?

(d)And what happened ...

1. ... when the second batch of Amei ha'Aretz fled except for one laundryman?

2. ... after the laundry-man fled?

(e)What did Rebbi extrapolate from this incident?

4)

(a)Yonasan ben Amram claimed that he had not even learned Chumash - because he did not want to benefit from Kavod ha'Torah.

(b)He expected to be sustained like a dog and like a raven - on whom Hash-m takes particular pity (a dog, whose food stays in his stomach for three days because he is poorly fed, and a raven, as the Pasuk says in Tehilim "li'Venei Orev asher Yikra'u" [see also Tosfos and Agados Maharsha]).

(c)When ...

1. ... Rebbi refused to allow the Rabanan of Teverya to participate in the payment of a special tax to pay for a new crown for the king - half of the Amei-ha'Aretz fled ...

2. ... at which point, half the tax was withdrawn.

(d)Then ...

1. ... when the second batch of Amei ha'Aretz fled except for that one laundryman - the entire tax was placed on him.

2. ... after the laundryman fled - the crown broke.

(e)From this incident, Rebbi extrapolated - that all (collective) punishments are directly due to the Amei ha'Aretz.

5)

(a)Someone who is guilty of idolatry is sentenced to S'kilah. How are members of an Ir ha'Nidachas killed?

(b)What other difference is there between an individual who serves idols and an Ir ha'Nidachas?

(c)If a caravan of people are staying in the city, how long must they have been there to receive the same sentence as its members, according to the Beraisa?

(d)Based on the Pasuk in Shoftim (in connection with an Ir ha'Nidachas) "Yoshvei ha'Ir", how does Rava reconcile this Beraisa with our Mishnah, which does not consider someone a resident until he has lived in the city for one year?

(e)How does this distinction manifest itself in a Beraisa regarding someone who declares a Neder?

5)

(a)Someone who is guilty of idolatry is sentenced to S'kilah; members of an Ir ha'Nidachas however - are killed by the sword.

(b)The other difference between an individual who serves idols and an Ir ha'Nidachas is - that the property of the latter is destroyed too, but not of the former.

(c)The Beraisa rules - that if a caravan of people have resided in the city for thirty days, they receive the same sentence as its members.

(d)Based on the Pasuk (in connection with an Ir ha'Nidachas) "Yoshvei ha'Ir", Rava reconciles this Beraisa with our Mishnah, which does not consider someone a resident until he has lived in the city for one year - inasmuch as we see that the Torah does not require someone to be a full resident to be punished together with the residents of an Ir ha'Nidachas.

(e)This distinction manifests itself in a Beraisa regarding someone who declares a Neder inasmuch as - if he declares a Neder not to derive benefit from the men of the city, he may benefit from anyone who has not resided there for one year; whereas if he said 'mi'Yoshvei ha'Ir', it will include anyone who had lived there for thirty days.

6)

(a)We learned in a Beraisa that a man who has lived in a town for thirty days is obligated to provide food for the soup-kitchen (for the poor), but for one year before he is obligated to pay towards Pasei ha'Ir (strengthening the gates). How long must he reside there before becoming obligated to donate towards ...

1. ... the Kupah (the Tzedakah fund)?

2. ... K'sus (the fund for clothing the poor)?

3. ... Kevurah (the burial fund for the poor)?

(b)Then why does our Mishnah categorically give the time period as twelve months before becoming a resident.

(c)Rebbi Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan obligates even Yesomim to pay towards strengthening the gates of the town, but not Talmidei-Chachamim (as we learned earlier). What does Rav Papa say in this regard, about repairs to the city walls, hiring a guard who rides around the walls on a horse and a Tarzina? What is a Tarzina?

(d)What is the principle that determines whether or not, Yesomim are obligated to participate in the town's public expenses?

6)

(a)We learned in a Beraisa that a man who has lived in a town for thirty days is obligated to provide food for the soup-kitchen (for the poor), but for one year before he is obligated to pay towards Pasei ha'Ir (strengthening the gates). Before becoming obligated to donate towards ...

1. ... the Kupah (the Tzedakah fund) - he must have resided there for three months.

2. ... K'sus (the fund for clothing the poor) - six months.

3. ... Kevurah (the burial fund for the poor) - nine months.

(b)When our Mishnah categorically gives the time period as twelve months before becoming a resident - it is referring to 'Pasei ha'Ir' exclusively.

(c)Rebbi Asi Amar Rebbi Yochanan obligates even Yesomim to pay towards strengthening the gates of the town, but not Talmidei-Chachamim (as we learned earlier). Rav Papa says - exactly the same in this regard, about repairs to the city walls, hiring a guard who rides around the walls on a horse and a Tarzina (a resident guard of the armory).

(d)The principle that determines whether, or not, Yesomim are obligated to participate in the town's public expenses - is whether they benefit from it or not.

7)

(a)What does the Beraisa quoted by Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah say about Yesomim paying toward ...

1. ... the Tzedakah fund?

2. ... the redemption of captives?

(b)How did Rabah then justify his having claimed Tzedakah from the Yesomim of bei bar Meryon, when Abaye queried him about it?

(c)When Ifra Hurmiz (the mother of Shavur Malka, King of Persia) sent a purse of Tzedakah with instructions to use it for a big Mitzvah, what did Rav Yosef decide to do with it, based on the Beraisa of Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah?

7)

(a)The Beraisa quoted by Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah exempts Yesomim from paying toward ...

1. ... the Tzedakah fund.

2. ... the redemption of captives.

(b)When, based on this Beraisa, Abaye queried him for having claimed Tzedakah from the Yesomim of bei bar Meryon, he explained - that he did it in order to make them feel important (like their father had been [see Rabeinu Gershon]). In other words, it was to their advantage.

(c)When Ifra Hurmiz (the mother of Shavur Malka, King of Persia) sent a purse of Tzedakah with instructions to use it for a big Mitzvah, Rav Yosef, based on the Beraisa of Rav Shmuel bar Yehudah, decided to use it - for Pidyon Shevuyim.

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8)

(a)Based on a Pasuk in Yirmiyah ", we learn that death by the sword is worse than pestilence. Which death is worse than death by the sword?

(b)We learn from the Pasuk "Yakar be'Einei Hash-m ha'Mavsah 'la'Chasidav" that pestilence is the mildest of these deaths. By what logic is death by ...

1. ... the sword worse than pestilence?

2. ... starvation worse than death by the sword?

(c)From where do we learn that starvation is the worst of these deaths?

(d)What makes captivity worse than all of the above?

8)

(a)Based on a Pasuk in Yirmiyah", we learn that death by the sword is worse than pestilence, and that - death by starvation is worse still.

(b)We learn from the Pasuk "Yakar be'Einei Hash-m ha'Mavsah 'la'Chasidav" that pestilence is the mildest of deaths. Death by ...

1. ... the sword is worse than pestilence - because it is more gruesome.

2. ... starvation is worse than death by the sword - because it is more painful.

(c)We learn that starvation is the worst of these deaths - from the Pasuk in Eichah "Tovim hayu Chalelei Cherev me'Chalelei Ra'av".

(d)What makes captivity worse than all of the above is - the ability of the captors to do with the captive whatever they please, including killing him by of the above means (and the lack of knowledge of what they will do is in itself a torture).

9)

(a)Why does the Beraisa rule that the Kupah of Tzedakah requires ...

1. ... two Gaba'im to claim it?

2. ... three to distribute it?

(b)In which of the above points is the Tamchuy (the soup-kitchen) stricter than the Kupah shel Tzedakah? Why is that?

(c)The Kupah is distributed every Friday, the Tamchuy every day. In which other (third) way is the Tamchuy different than the Kupah with regard to its distribution?

(d)Can money collected for the Kupah be used for the Tamchuy, and vice-versa?

9)

(a)The Beraisa rules that the Kupah of Tzedakah requires ...

1. ... two Gaba'im to claim it - because of the principle 'Ein Osin S'rarus al ha'Tzibur Pachos mi'Shenayim' (meaning that any authoritative action vis-a-vis the community requires at least two Gaba'im).

2. ... three to distribute it - because it is comparable to money matters (which require three judges) inasmuch as it requires a decision as to how much each poor person is to receive.

(b)The Tamchuy (the soup-kitchen)is stricter than the Kupah shel Tzedakah - inasmuch as it requires three Gaba'im even to claim it (to obviate the need to search for a third person to distribute it, seeing as it is distributed every day).

(c)The Kupah is distributed every Friday, the Tamchuy every day. The other (third) way in which the Tamchuy is different than the Kupah with regard to its distribution - is that the Gaba'im may include the poor from out of town among its recipients, whereas the Kupah is confined to residents only.

(d)Money collected for the Kupah - may be used for the Tamchuy and vice-versa, but only with permission from the townspeople. In fact, it may then be used for any communal needs.

10)

(a)The Tana authorizes the town's residents to fix the measures, the prices, the workers wages and Le'hasi'a al Kitzasan. What does he mean by ...

1. ... 'the measures'?

2. ... 'the prices'?

3. ... 'Le'hasi'a al Kitzasan'?

(b)The Pasuk in Tetzaveh "ve'Heim Yikchu es ha'Zahav ... " implies that two Gaba'im are required to claim Tzedakah funds. What statement did Rav Nachman make that qualifies this Chumra?

(c)What did Rebbi Chanina testify that Rebbi did which bears this out?

(d)The reason that the Kupah requires two Gaba'im is because it entails authority. What authoritative methods must the Gaba'ei Tzedakah employ?

10)

(a)The Tana authorizes the residents of the town to fix the measures, the prices, the workers wages and Le'hasi'a al Kitzasan. When he says ...

1. ... 'the measures', he means - to add or to subtract to the local Sa'ah measure.

2. ... 'the prices' - to fix the maximum selling-price of wheat and wine.

3. ... 'Le'hasi'a al Kitzasan' - he means - to penalize whoever contravenes these decisions.

(b)The Pasuk in Tetzaveh "ve'Heim Yikchu es ha'Zahav ... " implies that two Gaba'im are required to claim Tzedakah funds. Rav Nachman qualifies this Chumra, with his statement that - although S'rarus requires two people, the reason is not because one is not trustworthy.

(c)Rebbi Chanina bore this out by testifying - that Rebbi appointed two brothers (who as far as trustworthiness is concerned, are considered one.

(d)The reason that the Kupah requires two Gaba'im is because it entails authority - inasmuch as they sometimes need to coerce people to pay, by taking a Mashkon (in the event that someone refuses to pay his dues).

11)

(a)How do we reconcile this with the Pasuk in Yirmiyah "u'Fakadti al Kol Lochtzav", which according to Rav's interpretation, threatens Gaba'ei Tzedakah who coerce people into giving Tzedakah with Divine retribution?

(b)How much did Rava force Rav Nasan bar Ami to donate for Tzedakah?

(c)According to the first Lashon, the Pasuk in Daniel "ve'ha'Maskilim Yazhiru ke'Zohar ha'Raki'a" refers to a Dayan who judges accurately according to Din Torah, and "u'Matzdikei ha'Rabim ke'Kochavim le'Olam Va'ed" to Gaba'ei Tzedakah. According to the second Lashon, "ve'ha'Maskilim Yazhiru ... " refers to both of the above. To whom then, does "u'Matzdikei ha'Rabim ... " refer?

(d)Rav cited Rav Shmuel bar Shilas as the epitome of the latter. What did Rav Shmuel bar Shilas reply, when Rav met him standing in the garden and asked him whether he had not forsaken his young students?

(e)When Ravina was asked what the Pasuk says about the Talmidei-Chachamim, which Pasuk in Shoftim did he quote?

11)

(a)We reconcile this with the Pasuk "u'Fakadti al Kol Lochtzav", which according to Rav's interpretation, threatens Gaba'ei Tzedakah who coerce people into giving Tzedakah with Divine retribution - by establishing this Pasuk with regard to coercing people who are not wealthy, whereas our Beraisa is speaking about coercing those who are.

(b)Rava forced Rav Nasan bar Ami to donate - four hundred Zuz for Tzedakah.

(c)According to the first Lashon, the Pasuk "ve'ha'Maskilim Yazhiru ke'Zohar ha'Raki'a" refers to a Dayan who judges accurately according to Din Torah, and "u'Matzdikei ha'Rabim ke'Kochavim le'Olam Va'ed" to Gaba'ei Tzedakah. According to the second Lashon, "ve'ha'Maskilim Yazhiru ... " refers to both of the above, and "u'Matzdikei ha'Rabim ... " - to Melamdei Tinokos (children's Rebbes).

(d)Rav cited Rav Shmuel bar Shilas as the epitome of the latter. When Rav met Rav Shmuel bar Shilas standing in a garden and asked him whether he had not forsaken his young students, he replied - that this was the first break that he had taken in thirteen years and that, even then, so bound was he to them, that his mind was on them all the time.

(e)When Ravina was asked what the Pasuk says about the Talmidei-Chachamim, he quoted the Pasuk in Shoftim - "ve'Ohavav ke'Tzeis ha'Shemesh bi'Gevuraso".

12)

(a)The Beraisa forbids the two Gaba'ei Tzedakah to part ways. What does the Tana nevertheless permit?

(b)What does he say about a Gabai Tzedakah who, on his rounds ...

1. ... finds money in the street?

2. ... meets his debtor, who pays off his debt?

(c)And what does another Beraisa say about a Gabai ...

1. ... Tzedakah who has no poor people to whom to distribute and he has copper P'rutos in the Kupah that will become moldy?

2. ... Tamchuy who has no poor to feed and wants to sell the food he has collected?

(d)Why does the Tana also forbid him, when exchanging P'rutos for silver coins, to count two coins at a time (see Rabeinu Gershom)?

12)

(a)The Beraisa forbids the two Gaba'ei Tzedakah to part ways as they make their rounds, though the Tana does allow them - to split up, one to collect from those who are sitting by the gate, and the other, from those who are sitting in the shop (provided they can both be seen simultaneously.

(b)He says that a Gabai Tzedakah who, on his rounds ...

1. ... finds money in the street - must place it in his Tzedakah-purse, and only when he arrives home, may he withdraw it and place it in his own.

2. ... meets his debtor, who pays off his debt - must also do that.

(c)Another Beraisa rules that a Gabai ...

1. ... Tzedakah who has no poor people to whom to distribute, and he has copper P'rutos in the Kupah that will become moldy - may exchange them for silver coins belonging to a second person, but not for his own.

2. ... Tamchuy who has no poor to feed, and wants to sell the food he has collected - may sell it to someone else, but not to himself.

(d)The Tana also forbids him, when exchanging P'rutos for silver coins, to count two coins at a time - in case he miscounts and gives the owner of the silver coins too many copper ones.

13)

(a)Why did Abaye originally refuse to sit on the Shul's mats?

(b)What caused him to relent?

(c)He also quoted Rabah, who used to have two purses for Tzedakah, one for the poor of his town, and one for those from out of town. He later followed the advice of Shmuel to Rav Tachlifa bar Avdimi. What did Shmuel tell Rav Tachlifa bar Avdimi to do?

(d)Rav Ashi did not even need to do that. Why not?

13)

(a)Abaye originally refused to sit on the Shul's mats - because they were purchased with money from the Kupah.

(b)He relented however - when he learned the Beraisa (quoted above), permitting the community to use the money for any communal needs that they see fit.

(c)He also quoted Rabah, who used to have two purses for Tzedakah, one for the poor of his town, and one for those from out of town. He later followed the advice of Shmuel however, who advised Rav Tachlifa bar Avdimi - to place all the money in one purse, and to stipulate with the community that the money may be used for either.

(d)Rav Ashi did not even to do that - due to the fact that he was such an influential person, that whoever gave him money for Tzedakah, did so on the understanding that he would distribute it to whomever he saw fit.

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