1)

(a)Rav Yitzchak b'Rebbi Savrin asks why, according to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Avin, if the Pesach is Shechted as Ma'aser Beheimah (which is Kodshim Kalim), it does not become Ma'aser Beheimah? Besides the fact that (as opposed to a Shelamim) Ma'aser Beheimah does not require Nesachim, what difference will it make whether it is considered a Shelamim or Ma'aser?

(b)We answer by quoting the Pasuk in Bechukosai "ha'Asiri Yih'yeh Kodesh". How does that answer the Kashya?

(c)In similar vein, he asks, why, if it was Shechted as a B'chor (which is Kodshim Kalim too), should it not become a B'chor. Besides the fact that a B'chor does not require Nesachim, what difference will it make whether it is considered a Shelamim or a B'chor?

(d)How will the 'Gezeirah-Shavah' "Avrah" "Avrah" (from Ma'aser Beheimah) solve the problem?

1)

(a)Rav Yitzchak b'Rebbi Savrin asks why, according to Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Avin, if the Pesach is Shechted as Ma'aser Beheimah (which is Kodshim Kalim), it does not become Ma'aser Beheimah Besides the fact that (as opposed to a Shelamim) Ma'aser Beheimah does not require Nesachim - it cannot be sold either, even with a blemish.

(b)We answer by quoting the Pasuk in Bechukosai "ha'Asiri Yih'yeh Kodesh" - from which we extrapolate that only the tenth animal can be called 'Ma'aser Beheimah', and no other.

(c)In similar vein, he asks, why, if it was Shechted as a B'chor (which is Kodshim Kalim too), should it not become a B'chor? Besides the fact that a B'chor does not require Nesachim - it must also be given to a Kohen.

(d)The Gezeirah-Shavah "Avrah" "Avrah" solves the problem - because it means that we learn B'chor ("Ve'ha'avarta Kol Peter Rechem" [in Bo']) from Ma'aser Beheimah ("Kol asher Ya'avor Tachas ha'Shevet" [in Bechukosai]) precluding any animal other than an actual firstborn from becoming a B'chor.

2)

(a)What does Mar Zutra b'rei de'Rav Nachman learn from the word "Hu" (in the Pasuk in Bechukosai "Ve'hayah Hu u'Temuraso Yih'yeh Kodesh")?

(b)What are the ramifications of the suggestion that if a Pesach is Shechted as ...

1. ... a Temurah, it becomes a Temurah (besides the fact that it cannot be sold or redeemed)?

2. ... a Todah, it becomes a Todah?

(c)What objection do we raise to the answer that since the Pesach does not require loaves, why should the Mosar Pesach?

(d)How do we therefore amend this answer?

2)

(a)Mar Zutra b'rei de'Rav Nachman learns from the word "Hu" (in the Pasuk in Bechukosai "Ve'hayah Hu u'Temuraso Yih'yeh Kodesh") that - only a genuine Temurah has the Din of a Temurah (but not a Mosar ha'Pesach).

(b)The ramifications of the suggestion that if a Pesach is Shechted as ...

1. ... a Temurah, it becomes a Temurah are - 1. that it cannot be sold or redeemed; 2. that one receives Malkos for having declared it as such.

2. ... a Todah, it becomes a Todah are - that one is obligated to bring forty loaves together with it.

(c)We object to the answer that since the Pesach does not require loaves, why should the Mosar Pesach - inasmuch as by the same token, the Mosar ha'Pesach could not become a Shelamim either (seeing as a Shelamim requires Nesachim, whereas a Pesach does not).

(d)We therefore amend the answer to read that - if the Mosar Todah itself does not require loaves, why should the Mosar Todah that comes from an external source require them?

3)

(a)We have so far taken for granted that "ve'Im min ha'Tzon Korbano" refers to Mosar Pesach (a Shelamim, which comes from Tzon). Rav Yeimar b'rei de'Rav Hillel however, queries this. Which other Mosar does he suggest it refers to (which also comes from the sheep family)?

(b)How does Rava, based on the word "min", refute Rav Yeimar's suggestion?

(c)How does Rebbi Avin bar Chiya (or bar Kahana) query the Limud from "min"?

(d)Rebbi Mani answers that here too, "min" comes to exclude. What does it exclude?

(e)If Rava does not learn it the above Ribuy from "min", then what is his source?

3)

(a)We have so far taken for granted that "ve'Im min ha'Tzon Korbano" refers to Mosar Pesach (i.e. a Shelamim, which comes from Tzon). Rav Yeimar b'rei de'Rav Hillel however, suggests that it refers to - an Asham, which also comes from the sheep family.

(b)Rava, based on the word "min", refutes Rav Yeimar's suggestion - on the grounds that "min ha'Tzon" incorporates all species of "Tzon" (sheep and goats, male or female), whereas an Asham can only be a ram.

(c)Rebbi Avin bar Chiya (or bar Kahana) queries the Limud from "min" - which generally comes to exclude, and not to include (as Rava just suggested).

(d)Rebbi Mani answers that here too, "min" comes to exclude - a sheep that has already entered its second year, as well as a female (which cannot be brought as a Korban Pesach).

(e)And the source of Rava's refutation is not the word "min", but - "Tzon", which implies any member of the sheep or goat family.

4)

(a)What problem does the continuation of the Pasuk ("ve'Im min ha'Tzon") "Im Kesev ... ve'Im Eiz" create? How does this seemingly negate the theory that the Pasuk is talking about a Mosar ha'Pesach?

(b)If the Torah is not talking about a Mosar ha'Pesach, then what is it coming to teach us?

(c)We answer that the Pasuk is indeed talking about a Mosar Pesach, and that the Beraisa explains "Im Kesev ... ve'Im Eiz". What does the Tana learn from ...

1. ... "Kesev" (with regard to the Pesach itself)?

2. ... "Im Kesev" (with regard to a Pesach which has entered its second year, and Shelamim ha'Ba'in Machmas ha'Pesach?

(d)What are Shelamim ha'Ba'in Machmas ha'Pesach?

(e)And what does the Tana then learn from "ve'Im Eiz"?

4)

(a)The problem now is that - if "ve'Im min ha'Tzon" is speaking about a Mosar ha'Pesach, as we currently maintain, why does the Torah need to continue "Im Kesev ... ve'Im Eiz" (seeing as the Torah has already taught us (in Parshas Bo) that the Pesach comes from these two animals?

(b)If the Torah was not talking about a Mosar ha'Pesach, it is coming to teach us that - someone who brings a Shelamim, has the choice of bringing either a sheep or a goat (and has nothing to do with a Mosar ha'Pesach at all).

(c)We answer that the Pasuk is indeed talking about a Mosar Pesach, and that the Tana learns from ...

1. ... "Kesev" that - the fat-tail of the Korban Pesach must be brought on the Mizbe'ach together with the fat-pieces (like that of a regular Shelamim).

2. ... "Im Kesev" that - a Pesach that has entered its second year, and Shelamim ha'Ba'im Machmas ha'Pesach, are subject to Semichah, Nesachim and the waving of the Chazeh ve'Shok (just like a regular Shelamim).

(d)Shelamim ha'Ba'in Machmas ha'Pesach refers to - the Chagigah that is brought on the fourteenth of Nisan to supplement the Pesach when necessary.

(e)And the Tana learns from "ve'Im Eiz" that - the tail of the goat is not brought on the Mizbe'ach.

5)

(a)What do we query the Beraisa that we just learned, from Shmuel's father, who learned earlier that Mosar Pesach is brought as a Shelamim from "ve'Im min ha'Tzon Korbano le'Zevach Shelamim"?

(b)And what does Rav Nachman Amar Rabah bar Avuhah learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Vezavachta Pesach la'Hashem Elokecha Tzon u'Vakar"?

(c)How do we now reconcile all three Pesukim? Which case would we have learned had there been only one Pasuk?

(d)Why would we not have known that from there a Mosar Pesach after Pesach, but that is still in its first year?

(e)And why do we still need a Pasuk to teach us that the same applies to a Mosar Pesach before Pesach?

5)

(a)We query the Beraisa that we just learned, from Shmuel's father, who learned earlier that Mosar Pesach is brought as a Shelamim from "ve'Im min ha'Tzon Korbano le'Zevach Shelamim" - in that the Tana learns the same thing with regard to a Pesach which has entered its second year (which is synonymous with 'Mosar ha'Pesach') from "Im Kesev".

(b)And Rav Nachman Amar Rabah bar Avuhah learns from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Vezavachta Pesach la'Hashem Elokecha Tzon u'Vakar" that - Mosar ha'Pesach becomes a Shelamim.

(c)To reconcile all three Pesukim - we explain that all three are necessary. Had there been only one Pasuk - we would have applied it to a Mosar Pesach after Pesach, where the lamb has also entered its second year (when the animal is no longer eligible to be brought as a Pesach).

(d)We would not have known from there a Mosar Pesach after Pesach, but that is still in its first year - because in that case it is still eligible to be brought as a Korban Pesach on Pesach Sheini.

(e)And we still need a Pasuk to teach us that the same applies to a Mosar Pesach before Pesach - which is even eligible to be brought as a Pesach on Pesach Rishon.

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6)

(a)Rav in the name of Mavog now discusses a Chatas which is Shechted as Chatas Nachshon. What is Chatas Nachshon?

(b)What did he say about a Chatas that is Shechted as Chatas Nachshon?

(c)How does he learn this from the Pasuk in Tzav "Zos Toras ha'Chatas"?

(d)What does Rebbi Shimon say in a Beraisa about a Minchas Marcheshes (that is cooked in a pot) from which the Kohen takes a Kemitzah having in mind a Minchah al ha'Machavas (fried in a flat pan [or vice-versa]); or a Minchah mingled with oil, having in mind a dry one (or vice-versa)?

(e)What is the reason for this?

6)

(a)Rav in the name of Mavog now discusses a Chatas which is Shechted as Chatas Nachshon - the Chatas brought by Nachshon, who was the first of the Princes to bring a set of Korbanos to inaugurate the Mizbe'ach.

(b)He ruled that a Chatas that is Shechted as Chatas Nachshon - is Kasher.

(c)He learns this from the Pasuk "Zos Toras ha'Chatas" - which implies that all Chata'os fall under the same category.

(d)Rebbi Shimon says in a Beraisa that if a Kohen takes a Kemitzah from a Minchas Marcheshes (in a pot) having in mind a Minchah al ha'Machavas (cooked in a flat pan [or vice-versa]); or a Minchah mingled with oil, having in mind a dry one (or vice-versa) - the Minchah is Kasher ...

(e)... because everyone can see what sort of Minchah it really is (rendering void any intentions that runs contrary to that).

7)

(a)What does Rav Mesharshaya extrapolate from Rebbi Shimon? What would be the Din from one Minchah to the other, assuming that the distinction is not noticeable?

(b)How does that create a Kashya on Rav quoting Mavog?

(c)Why did we not ask the same Kashya on Rava, (whom we will quote shortly and) who learned earlier Chatas Cheilev she'Shechtah le'Shem Chatas Dam, Kesheirah?

(d)We therefore amend Rav's statement to Chatas she'Nishchatah al-M'nas she'Yiskaper bah Nachshon, Kesheirah. Why is that?

7)

(a)Rav Mesharshaya extrapolates from Rebbi Shimon that, assuming the distinction is not noticeable - his thoughts would invalidate the Minchah ...

(b)... even though there too, the Torah writes "Zos Toras ha'Minchah" (a Kashya on Rav quoting Mavog)?

(c)We cannot ask the same Kashya on Rava (whom we will quote shortly and) who learned earlier that Chatas Cheilev she'Shechtah le'Shem Chatas Dam, Kesheirah - because he will answer that all Chata'os that atone for Kareis are called Chata'os, whereas a Minchas Marcheshes is not the same as a Minchah al ha'Machavas.

(d)We therefore amend Rav's statement to Chatas she'Nishchatah al-M'nas she'Yiskaper bah Nachshon, Kesheirah - because this is a case of Shinuy Ba'alim, and a deceased person is not subject to the Kaparah of a Korban.

8)

(a)Why did Rav then refer specifically to Chatas Nachshon, and not just the Chatas of any deceased person?

(b)We query this however with 'Hani Olos Ninhu'? What do we mean by that? Why do we refer to a Chatas Nazir and a Chatas Metzora as 'Olos'?

(c)What are the ramifications of the Kashya?

(d)So how do we amend Rav's statement once again, to conclude Chatas Nachshon Olah hi?

8)

(a)Rav refers specifically to Chatas Nachshon, and not just the Chatas of any deceased person - in order to teach by implication that in the case of a live person similar to Nachshon (such as if one Shechts the Chatas for the sake of someone who is Chayav a Chatas Nazir or Metzora, the Korban will be Pasul).

(b)We query this however with Hani Olos Ninhu meaning that - since a Chatas Nazir and a Chatas Metzora do not come to atone, they are like Olos ...

(c)... and we learned earlier that if one Shechts a Chatas for someone who is Chayav an Olah, it remains Kasher.

(d)So we amend Rav's statement once again to read - Chatas she'Shachtah al Mi she'Mechuyav Chatas ke'Nachshon, Kesheirah, Chatas Nachshon Olah hi.

9)

(a)Others amend Rav's statement to read Chatas she'Shachtah le'Shem Chatas Nachshon, Pesulah. Why is that?

(b)Then why did Rav in the name of Mavog present the case of Chatas Nachshon, and not a Chatas Nazir or Metzora?

9)

(a)Others amend Rav's statement to Chatas she'Shachtah le'Shem Chatas Nachshon, Pesulah - because a Chatas in the name of an Olah is Shinuy Kodesh from a Chatas to an Olah (as we just explained), and is therefore Pasul.

(b)And the reason that Rav in the name of Mavog presented the case of Chatas Nachshon, and not of a Chatas Nazir or Metzora is - because it was the first recorded case of a Chatas Yachid.

10)

(a)What does Rava say about a Chatas Cheilev that is Shechted ...

1. ... as a Chatas Dam or a Chatas Avodas-Kochavim? What is the special Chidush with regard to a Chatas Avodas-Kochavim?

2. ... as a Chatas Nazir or a Chatas Metzora?

(b)Why the difference?

(c)Rava asked what the Din will be if one Shechts a Chatas Cheilev as a Chatas Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav. What are the two sides of the She'eilah? Why might it be ...

1. ... Kasher?

2. ... Pasul?

10)

(a)Rava rules that a Chatas Cheilev that is Shechted ...

1. ... as a Chatas Dam or a Chatas Avodas-Kochavim - is Kasher (the latter in spite of the fact that it requires a she-goat, as opposed to a Chatas Cheilev, which may also be a ewe).

2. ... as a Chatas Nazir or a Chatas Metzora is - Pasul ...

(b)... because the first is a case Chatas le'Shem Chatas, whereas the second is one of Chatas le'Shem Olah (as we explained).

(c)Rava asked what the Din will be if one Shechts a Chatas Cheilev as a Chatas Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav, which might be ...

1. ... Kasher - because, on the one hand, like a Chatas Cheilev, it comes to atone for a Chiyuv Kareis.

2. ... Pasul - because, on the other hand, unlike a Chatas Cheilev, it is not a fixed Korban (since it is a Korban Oleh ve'Yored).

11)

(a)Rav Acha b'rei de'Rava maintains that all the current cases are Pasul. How does he Darshen the Pasuk "Veshachat osah le'Chatas"?

(b)What did he then reply when Rav Ashi asked him how he presented his father (Rava)'s She'eilah? In which case did Rava rule ...

1. ... Pasul?

2. ... Kasher?

(c)And what is then his Safek?

11)

(a)Rav Acha b'rei de'Rava maintains that all the current cases are Pasul. He Darshens the Pasuk "Veshachat osah le'Chatas" to mean that - the Shochet must have in mind the Chatas that he is Shechting. Consequently, a Chatas Cheilev that is Shechted as a Chatas Nachshon, Nazir, Metzora, or even Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav, is Pasul.

(b)When Rav Ashi asked him how he presented his father (Rava)'s She'eilah, he replied that Rava was talking about Shinuy Ba'alim (and not Shinuy Kodesh, as we explained initially). He ruled ...

1. ... Pasul - in a case where a Chatas Cheilev is Shechted in the name of someone who is Chayav a Chatas Dam or Avodas-Kochavim.

2. ... Kasher - in a case where it was Shechted in the name of someone who is Chayav a Chatas Nazir or Metzora.

(c)Whereas his Safek entails a case - where a Chatas Cheilev is Shechted in the name of someone who is Chayav a Chatas Tum'as Mikdash ve'Kodashav.

12)

(a)If one Shechts a Korban li'Shemah but has in mind to sprinkle its blood she'Lo li'Shemah, Rebbi Yochanan holds Pasul. What does Resh Lakish say?

(b)What is ...

1. ... the principle on which their Machlokes is based?

2. ... the source of their Machlokes?

(c)Why does Resh Lakish decline to learn P'sul Kodesh from Pigul?

12)

(a)If one Shechts a Korban li'Shemah but has in mind to sprinkle its blood she'Lo li'Shemah, Rebbi Yochanan holds Pasul - Resh Lakish, Kasher.

(b)The ...

1. ... principle on which their Machlokes is based is - Mechashvin me'Avodah la'Avodah (by a Machsheves she'Lo li'Shemo).

2. ... the source of their Machlokes is - whether we learn Machsheves she'Lo li'Shemo from Pigul (Rebbi Yochanan) or not (Resh Lakish).

(c)Resh Lakish declines to learn P'sul Kodesh from Pigul - because Pigul, by definition, entails performing one Avodah, in order to perform another Avodah that enables the Korban to be eaten (either by the owner or by the Mizbe'ach) outside its specified time.

13)

(a)They also engage in a similar Machlokes in a case where someone Shechts a Chulin animal. What is the case?

(b)What is Rebbi Yochanan's source to say Pasul?

(c)What are the ramifications of that Machlokes?

(d)Why do they to repeat this Machlokes twice? What would we have thought with regard to ...

1. ... the first case, had they only engaged in the second Machlokes?

2. ... the second case, had they only presented the first Machlokes?

13)

(a)They also engage in a similar Machlokes in a case where someone Shechts a Chulin animal - in order to sprinkle its blood in honor of Avodas-Kochavim.

(b)Rebbi Yochanan rules that it is Pasul, because he learns - Chutz mi'Penim.

(c)The ramifications of that Machlokes are - whether the animal becomes Asur be'Hana'ah (Rebbi Yochanan) or whether he may even eat it (Resh Lakish).

(d)We would have thought with regard to ...

1. ... the first case, had they only engaged in the second Machlokes that - Resh Lakish will concede that we learn P'nim from P'nim.

2. ... the second case, had they only engaged in the first Machlokes that - Rebbi Yochanan will concede that we do not learn Chutz from P'nim.

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