1)IF ONLY THE ARUS OR FATHER ANNULLED (cont.)

(a)(Continuation of Beraisa): If the father heard her vow and annulled it and the Arus died before he heard it, the father can annul the portion of her vow that remained to the Arus;

(b)R. Nasan says, this is Beis Shamai's opinion. Beis Hillel say that he cannot annul.

(c)Inference (and summation of answer to Question 2:a, 68a): Beis Shamai hold that the father cuts the vow. (The same applies to the Arus.) Beis Hillel hold that he weakens it.

2)ANNULMENT OF AFFIRMATION

(a)Question #1 (Rava): Can a father or husband (ask a Chacham and) permit his affirmation of a vow?

(b)Question #2: If you will say that he can, can he permit his annulment of a vow? (Affirmation is like a vow, so it is logical that it can be permitted. The only reason to say that annulment ca be permitted is because a Hekesh equates it to affirmation.)

(c)Answer to both questions: R. Yochanan taught that one can permit his affirmation, but not his annulment. (Regarding this, they are not equated.)

(d)Question (Rabah): If a father or husband said twice 'I affirm the vow', and he annulled the first affirmation, what is the law?

(e)Answer: Rava taught that if a man took the same oath twice, and he annulled the first, the second oath takes effect.

3)ONE WHO TRIES TO AFFIRM AND ANNUL

(a)Question (Rabah): If he said 'I affirm the vow, and it is annulled. My affirmation should not take effect unless the annulment takes effect', what is the law?

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(b)Answer (Mishnah - R. Meir): If one said 'this animal is Temurah (in place) of a Korban Olah, Temurah of a Korban Shelamim', it is Temuras Olah;

1.R. Yosi says, if he intended from the start to make it the Temurah of both, it is the Temurah of both, for a person cannot say two things at once (so we need not say that he retracted).

2.Even R. Meir said that only his first words take effect only because he did not say 'this should not take effect unless this does'. When he says 'my affirmation should not take effect unless the annulment takes effect', R. Meir agrees that the annulment takes effect! (The annulment was not contingent on the affirmation.)

(c)Question (Rabah): If he said 'your vow is affirmed and annulled at once', what is the law?

(d)Answer: We learn from Rabah's law.

1.(Rabah): If two things cannot take effect one after the other (e.g. Kidushin with two sisters), if one tries to make them take effect at once, neither takes effect.

4)QUESTIONABLE EXPRESSIONS OF ANNULMENT

(a)Question #1 (Rabah): If he said 'Your vow is affirmed today', what is the law?

1.Is it as if he said 'it is annulled tomorrow'?

2.Or perhaps it is not, for he did not say it explicitly? (Ran - this implies that had he said so explicitly, surely it would be annulled. Later, Rabah implies otherwise. He was unsure.)

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