(R. Yochanan): [Dye] ingredients [of Orlah] mixed with ingredients are Batel in 200. Dye water mixed with dye water is Batel in a majority.

(R. Ba bar Mamal): Hana'ah from Orlah is Batel in a majority.

Question (against R. Ba bar Mamal - Mishnah): If a Tavshil was cooked with (the fuel was) peels of Orlah, it must be burned. (If it was mixed with others, it is Batel in 201.)

Answer: He establishes it to discuss a pot among pots. (If Orlah was used to fuel the kiln in which the pot was made, it is Batel among Heter pots.)

(R. Yosi): R. Ba bar Mamal holds that l'Chatchilah one may do so (be Mevatel in a majority), not [only] b'Di'eved.

Question: Why is this?

Answer: If there is enough [Orlah] to dye, you view the Heter as if it is not, and the Isur is enough to forbid. If there is not enough [Orlah] to dye, [even if] you view the Heter as if it is not, the Isur is not enough to forbid. (In the latter case one may be Mevatel l'Chatchilah, for in any case the Isur cannot forbid. - MAHARA FULDA.)

(Mishnah): The following things of Nochrim are forbidden, and they are Asur b'Hana'ah - their wine, Nochri vinegar that was initially wine, and Hadriani earthenware (it is soaked in wine, and it absorbs the wine. People break it and soak the shards in water, and wine exudes.)

(R. Ze'ira citing R. Yirmeyah): [This Mishnah] is R. Meir, for it was taught, Hadriani earthenware is forbidden, and it is Asur b'Hana'ah. R. Meir says so. Chachamim say, it is not Asur b'Hana'ah.

Question: What is the case?

If it was put into a Tavshil (it gives taste of Yayin Nesech), all forbid!

If he sold it except for the value of the Yayin Nesech inside, all permit!

Answer: The case is, he put it on a Tavshil (to cover it - R. SHLOMO SIRILIYO).

Question: May one use it to support the legs of a bed?

Answer #1 (R. Lazar): It is forbidden.

Answer #2 (R. Yochanan): It is permitted.

Question (R. Yonah, to R. Ze'ira): The garment taught here (that was dyed with Orlah), may one use it to support a bed?

R. Ze'ira was upset with him. He said, even the one who permits there (regarding Hadriani earthenware), he forbids here. There, the Isur is not recognized. Here, it is recognized.

(R. Chagai): When I descended from the boat, I heard the voice of R. Yakov bar Acha teaching 'if a garment was dyed with peels of Orlah, it must be burned', and a Mishnah teaches 'if one took from [an Asherah] a Karkar (a stick used for weaving), one may not benefit from it. If he wove a garment with it, it is Asur b'Hana'ah;

If Yayin Nesech fell into a pit (of Kosher wine), all is Asur b'Hana'ah;

(Mishnah - R. Shimon ben Gamliel): One may sell it all to a Nochri, except for the value of the Yayin Nesech.

(Rav Acha bar Yakov): R. Chagai asked the question (why does R. Shimon ben Gamliel not give the same Heter for a garment woven using a Karkar of idolatry), and R. Chagai answered it.

Question: What is the difference?

Answer: There, it is not normal for people (Yisraelim) to buy wine from a Nochri. Here, it is normal for people to buy a garment from a Nochri (if he sells the garment to a Nochri, perhaps a Yisrael will buy it from him)!