Perek Kodshei Mizbe'ach

1)

(a)Our Mishnah discusses Kodshim combining with each other to make up a Shi'ur. Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with each other to make up both the Shi'ur Me'ilah and the Shi'ur Pigul, Nosar and Tamei. What Shi'ur is required to be Chayav ...

1. ... Me'ilah?

2. ... Pigul, Nosar and Tamei?

(b)What about Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis also combining ...

1. ... with each other to make up a Shi'ur Me'ilah?

2. ... with each other regarding Pigul, Nosar and Tamei

3. ... with Kodshei Mizbe'ach to make up the Shi'ur Me'ilah?

1)

(a)Our Mishnah discusses Kodshim combining with each other to make up a Shi'ur. Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with each other to make up both the Shi'ur Me'ilah and the Shi'ur Pigul, Nosar and Tamei. The Shi'ur to be Chayav ...

1. ... Me'ilah is - a P'rutah.

2. ... Pigul, Nosar and Tamei is - a k'Zayis.

(b)Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis also combine with ...

1. ... each other to make up a Shi'ur Me'ilah. They are not however ...

2. ... subject to Pigul, Nosar and Tamei, so it is obvious that - they do not combine with each other in that regard, but they do combine with ...

3. ... Kodshei Mizbe'ach to make up the Shi'ur Me'ilah.

2)

(a)Seeing as Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis, why does the Tana need to add that they also combine with each other?

(b)What does Rebbi Yanai say about Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis and Olah? What do they have in common?

(c)He opens his statement with the word 'Machvarta'. What does it mean?

(d)How does he learn his ruling from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Nefesh ki Sim'ol Ma'al mi'Kodshei Hash-m"?

2)

(a)Despite the fact that Kodshei Mizbe'ach combine with Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis, the Tana sees fit to inform us that they combine with each other - because he wants to add 've'Lechayev aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei' (which, as we explained, does not apply to Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis).

(b)Rebbi Yanai states - that Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis and Olah alone are subject to Me'ilah, but not any other Kodshei Mizbe'ach.

(c)He opens his statement with the word 'Machvarta', which means that - it is clear-cut.

(d)And he learns his ruling from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Nefesh ki Sim'ol Ma'al mi'Kodshei Hash-m" - implying that Me'ilah only pertains to Kodshim that belong completely to Hash-m (and all other Kodshim belong in part either to the owners or to the Kohanim).

3)

(a)How will Rebbi Yanai explain ...

1. ... our Mishnah 'Kodshei Mizbe'ach Mitztarfin Zeh im Zeh li'Me'ilah'?

2. ... the opening Mishnah of our Masechta 'Kodshei Kodshim she'Shachtan be'Darom, Mo'alin bahen' and the Mishnah later in our Perek 'ha'Neheneh min ha'Chatas ke'she'Hi Chayah Lo Ma'al ad she'Yif'gom ... '?

(b)And how will he explain Rebbi in a Beraisa, who rules that Emurei Kodshim Kalim are subject to Me'ilah, and he learns it from the Pasuk there "Kol Cheilev la'Hashem"?

3)

(a)According to Rebbi Yanai when ...

1. ... our Mishnah says 'Kodshei Mizbe'ach Mitztarfin Zeh im Zeh li'Me'ilah' - it is referring to Me'ilah mi'de'Rabbanan, and the same applies to ...

2. ... the opening Mishnah of our Masechta 'Kodshei Kodshim She'Shachtan be'Darom, Mo'alin bahen' and the Mishnah later in our Perek 'ha'Neheneh min ha'Chatas ke'she'Hi Chayah Lo Ma'al ad she'Yif'gom ... '.

(b)And when Rebbi in a Beraisa, who rules that Emurei Kodshim Kalim are subject to Me'ilah, learns it from the Pasuk there "Kol Cheilev la'Hashem" - it is merely an Asmachta (a Rabbinic injunction which is hinted in the Torah).

4)

(a)We query Rebbi Yanai however, from a statement of Ula. What did Ula Amar Rebbi Yochanan say about Kodshim that have died?

(b)Why can this not be referring to Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis?

(c)What is now the Kashya on Rebbi Yanai?

(d)How do we know that Ula is not speaking exclusively about an Olah?

4)

(a)We query Rebbi Yanai however, from a statement of Ula, who said quoting Rebbi Yochanan that - Kodshim that have died are no longer subject to Me'ilah d'Oraysa.

(b)This cannot be referring to Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis - since there is no reason why Me'ilah should not pertain to a dead animal any less than to a live one or to a trash-heap.

(c)The Kashya on Rebbi Yanai now is that - we see from Ula Amar Rebbi Yochanan, that all live Kodshei Mizbe'ach are indeed subject to Me'ilah.

(d)We know that Ula is not speaking exclusively about an Olah - because he said 'Kodshim she'Meisu', and not 'Olah she'Meisah'.

5)

(a)Seeing as it is clear that all Kodshei Mizbe'ach are subject to Me'ilah, what did Rebbi Yanai then mean to say?

(b)What does he learn from the Pasuk in Emor "ve'Ish ki Yochal Kodesh bi'Shegagah ve'Yasaf Chamishiso alav, ve'Nasan la'Kohen es ha'Kodesh"?

5)

(a)Seeing as it is clear that all Kodshei Mizbe'ach are subject to Me'ilah, what Rebbi Yanai meant to say was that - the Pasuk that he quoted incorporates Kodshei Bedek ha'Bayis and Olah only.

(b)And from the Pasuk in Emor "ve'Ish ki Yochal Kodesh bi'Shegagah ve'Yasaf Chamishiso Alav, ve'Nasan la'Kohen es ha'Kodesh" he learns that - Me'ilah extends to all other Kodshim, too.

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6)

(a)Our Mishnah lists five things pertaining to an Olah that combine with each other to make up the Shi'ur. Three of them are Basar, Cheilev and So'les. What are the other two?

(b)What is the connection between flour, wine and oil and an Korban Olah?

6)

(a)Our Mishnah lists five things pertaining to an Olah that combine with each other to make up the Shi'ur: Basar, Cheilev So'les - Yayin and Shemen.

(b)The flour, the wine and the oil - comprise the Minchas Nesachim that accompany most Korbanos.

7)

(a)Seeing as we already learned in the previous Mishnah the Din of 'Mitztarfin', what is this Mishnah coming to teach us?

(b)Why does the Tana omit blood?

(c)Besides Me'ilah, Pigul, Nosar and Tamei, which other area of Halachah is affected by the current ruling?

7)

(a)Even though we already learned in the previous Mishnah the Din of 'Mitztarfin', this Mishnah is coming to teach us that - even wine, flour and oil ... , which belong to an entirely different species, combine with the Basar to make up the Shi'ur.

(b)The Tana omits blood - because it is subject neither to Me'ilah, nor to Pigul and Nosar.

(c)Besides Me'ilah, Pigul, Nosar and Tamei - this Din also affects Shechutei Chutz.

8)

(a)The Tana lists six things that combine regarding the Todah, (Basar, Cheilev, So'les, Yayin and Shemen). What is the sixth?

(b)Seeing as Lechem is mentioned independently, what does So'les refer to?

8)

(a)The Tana lists six things that combine regarding the Todah: Basar, Cheilev, So'les, Yayin and Shemen) and - Lechem (the forty loaves that accompany it).

(b)Since Lechem is mentioned independently, 'So'les' must be referring to - the Minchas Nesachim that accompanies it (like we learned by the Olah [see also Shitah Mekubetzes 8]).

9)

(a)Rav Huna quoted our Mishnah to his son Rabah as 'Chamishah Devarim be'Olam Mitztarfin'. What did he mean by that?

(b)What objection did his Rabah raise to that version?

(c)Alternatively, 'be'Olam' implies even Chulin. What was then Rabah bar Rav Huna's objection?

9)

(a)Rav Huna quoted our Mishnah to his son Rabah as 'Chamishah Devarim be'Olam Mitztarfin', by which he meant that - the five things combine by all Korbanos.

(b)His son Rabah objected to this version however - from our Mishnah, which lists six things by a Todah (and not five).

(c)Alternatively, 'be'Olam' implies even Chulin (see Shitah Mekubetzes 12), in which case, Rabah bar Rav Huna's objection was based on the fact that - the Tana's insertion of the Todah implies that the Tana is talking about Kodshim, and not Chulin.

10)

(a)Our Mishnah indicates what we learned in a Beraisa, which rules that the Basar of an Olah and its Emurin combine to make up a Shi'ur Ha'ala'as Chutz. What is the Shi'ur Basar for Ha'ala'as Chutz?

(b)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with Pigul) "ve'Im He'achol Ye'achel"?

(c)And what do we extrapolate from the fact that the Beraisa mentions specifically Olah?

(d)What objection do we raise to the continuation of the Beraisa 've'Lechayev aleihen Mishum Pigul, ve'Nosar ve'Tamei, from the next Mishnah? What will the next Mishnah say about all Pigulin and all Nosros?

10)

(a)Our Mishnah indicates what we learned in a Beraisa, which rules that the Basar of an Olah and its Emurin combine to make up the Shi'ur - k'Zayis of Ha'ala'as Chutz.

(b)We learn from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with Pigul) "ve'Im He'achol Ye'achel" that - Achilas Mizbe'ach requires a k'Zayis (just like Achilas Adam).

(c)And we extrapolate from the fact that the Beraisa mentions specifically 'Olah' that - as far as other Korbanos are concerned, the Basar and the Emurin do not combine.

(d)We object to the continuation of the Beraisa 've'Lechayev aleihen Mishum Pigul, ve'Nosar ve'Tamei' in that - the very next Mishnah informs us how all Pigulin and all Nosros combine); so how can the Beraisa preclude other Korbanos from this Halachah?

11)

(a)Why does this not also create a problem regarding Ha'ala'as Chutz?

(b)So we amend the Beraisa by substituting the Din of Z'rikas ha'Dam for 'u'le'Chayev aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei', and the author of the Beraisa is Rebbi Yehoshua. What does Rebbi Yehoshua in a Beraisa say about the blood of all Korbanos of which ...

1. ... a k'Zayis Basar or a k'Zayis Cheilev remain intact?

2. ... half a k'Zayis of Basar or half a k'Zayis Cheilev remain intact?

(c)And what does he say about an Olah of which half a k'Zayis of Basar and half a k'Zayis of Cheilev remain?

(d)Why the difference?

11)

(a)This does not create a problem regarding Ha'ala'as Chutz however - since the Basar and the Cheilev of Korbanos other than Olos do not combine.

(b)So we amend the Beraisa to read 'u'le'Chayev aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei', and the author of the Beraisa is Rebbi Yehoshua, who rules in a Beraisa that - the blood of all Korbanos of which ...

1. ... a k'Zayis Basar or a k'Zayis Cheilev remain intact, may be sprinkled.

2. ... half a k'Zayis of Basar and half a k'Zayis Cheilev remain - may not be sprinkled ...

(c)He permits however sprinkling the blood of an Olah on half a k'Zayis Basar and half a k'Zayis Cheilev ...

(d)... because they are both Achilas Mizbe'ach, whereas in the previous case the one is Achilas Mizbe'ach, and the other, Achilas Adam, which do not combine.

12)

(a)How does Rav Papa explain Rebbi Yehoshua's statement 'u've'Minchah Afilu Kulah Kayemes, Lo Yizrok'? Since when does a Minchah require Z'rikas ha'Dam?

(b)Why does he need to teach us that? Why might we have thought otherwise?

12)

(a)Rav Papa explains Rebbi Yehoshua's statement 'u've'Minchah Afilu Kulah Kayemes, Lo Yizrok' to mean that - even if the entire Minchas Nesachim remains intact, without a k'Zayis Basar or Emurin of the Korban, one cannot sprinkle the blood.

(b)He needs to teach us this, because we would otherwise have thought that - since the Minchas Nesachim comes together with the Korban, it is considered part of it in this regard too.

13)

(a)What does our Mishnah say about T'rumah (Gedolah), T'rumas Ma'aser, T'rumas Ma'aser shel D'mai, Chalah and Bikurimr.

(b)What fraction of the total produce constitutes ...

1. ... T'rumah?

2. ... T'rumas Ma'aser?

3. ... T'rumas Ma'aser shel D'mai?

(c)What does this combination render Asur?

(d)What other ramification are there regarding someone who eats the mixture be'Shogeg?

(e)What does the Tana say about all Pigulin and all Nosros?

13)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that Terumah (Gedolah), T'rumas Ma'aser, T'rumas Ma'aser shel D'mai, Chalah and Bikurim - all combine to make up the Shi'ur of Isur.

(b)The fraction of the total produce that constitutes ...

1. T'rumah - is a fiftieth ...

2. ... T'rumas Ma'aser is - a tenth of a tenth (with reference to Ma'aser Rishon) ...

3. ... T'rumas Ma'aser shel D'mai is also - a hundredth.

(c)This combination renders Asur - a dough that it causes to rise ...

(d)... and it obligates whoever eats the mixture be'Shogeg - to pay the principle plus a fifth.

(e)The Tana finally rules that - all Pigulin and all Nosros combine to make up the Shi'ur (as we learned earlier).

14)

(a)To explain the reason for the Mishnah's earlier ruling, we cite the two Pesukim "Reishis Arisoseichem Tarimu Terumah" (Korach) and "u'Terumas Yedchem" (Re'ei). What do we learn from there?

(b)Why do we not cite a Pasuk for T'rumah, T'rumas Ma'aser and T'rumas Ma'aser shel D'mai as well?

14)

(a)To explain the reason for the Mishnah's earlier ruling, we cite the two Pesukim "Reishis Arisoseichem Tarimu Terumah" (Korach) and "u'T'rumas Yedchem" (Re'ei) - which teach us that Chalah and Bikurim (respectively) are called T'rumah' and therefore combine to make up the Shi'ur for.

(b)It is not necessary to cite a Pasuk for T'rumah, T'rumas Ma'aser and T'rumas Ma'aser shel D'mai as well - because the Torah specifically refers to them as T'rumah (though the latter is only mi'de'Rabbanan anyway).

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