SHEVUOS 28 - Dedicated in memory of Max (Meir Menachem ben Shlomo ha'Levi) Turkel, by his children Eddie and Lawrence Turkel of New York. Max was a warm and loving husband and father and is missed dearly by his family and friends. His Yahrzeit is 5 Teves.

1)

(a)In the previous Sugya, we cited the Beraisa 'Mi she'Nadar Sh'tei Neziros u'Manah Rishonah ve'Hifrish alehah Korban, ve'Achar-Kach Nish'al al ha'Rishonah, Alsah lo Sheniyah ba'Rishonah'. How does this Beraisa pose a Kashya on Rava (who requires something substantial of the Shevu'ah to remain, before one can annul it)?

(b)How do we reconcile Rava with the Beraisa ...

1. ... initially?

2. ... after citing another Beraisa which establishes it by 'Kipar' (and 'Hifrish alehah Korban' really means 'Hikriv' [Ritva])? Who will then be the author?

3. ... after citing a third Beraisa which establishes it by 'Gilach'? Why does Rav Ashi consider Nezirus different?

1)

(a)In the previous Sugya, we cited the Beraisa 'Mi she'Nadar Sh'tei Neziros u'Manah Rishonah ve'Hifrish Alehah Korban, ve'Achar-Kach Nish'al al ha'Rishonah, Alsah lo Sheniyah ba'Rishonah'. This Beraisa poses a Kashya on Rava (who requires something substantial of the Shevu'ah to remain, before one can annul it) - inasmuch as it permits the Neder to be annulled even though the thirty day period is over, and nothing remains.

(b)We reconcile Rava with the Beraisa ...

1. ... initially - by establishing it where the Kaparah did not yet taken effect (see Tosfos ha'Rosh).

2. ... after citing another Beraisa which establishes it by 'Kipar' (and 'Hifrish Alehah Korban' really means 'Hikriv' [Ritva]) - by establishing it where the Nazir did not yet shaved off his hair (according to Rebbi Eliezer, who considers this crucial to the Mitzvah).

3. ... after citing a third Beraisa which establishes it by 'Gilach' - by differentiating between our case, where the Shevu'ah has been irreparably broken, and the case of Nezirus, which is replaced retroactively by the second Nezirus, when the first one is annulled (see Tosfos ha'Rosh).

2)

(a)Ameimar disagrees with Rava. According to him, his Shevu'ah can be annulled even after the Nishba contravened the Shevu'ah and ate the loaf. Why do we say that, assuming he ate it ...

1. ... be'Shogeg?

2. ... be'Meizid?

(b)In the latter case, Ameimar permits it up to the time that he is tied to the Amud to receive Malkos. Why does he say that? What does this have to do with Shmuel in Maseches Makos?

(c)On what basis do we refute Ameimar's latter statement?

(d)Until which stage then, is it possible to annul his Shevu'ah?

2)

(a)Ameimar disagrees with Rava. According to him, his Shevu'ah can be annulled even after the Nishba contravened the Shevu'ah and ate the loaf ...

1. ... be'Shogeg - because the Chiyuv Korban still remains.

2. ... be'Meizid - because the Chiyuv Malkos still remains.

(b)In the latter case, Ameimar permits it up to the time that he is tied to the Amud to receive Malkos - because, as we learned in Maseches Makos, Shmuel exempts from Malkos, a sinner who is tied to the Amud and who breaks free and runs out of Beis-Din, seeing as he has already been disgraced.

(c)We refute Ameimar's latter statement however - seeing as that is only if he did in fact beak loose and escape, but not if he didn't.

(d)Consequently, it is possible to annul his Shevu'ah - up to the time that he receives Malkos (unless he escapes before that).

3)

(a)What does Rava rule in a case where someone makes a Shevu'ah not to eat loaf a. if he eats loaf b., and he then eats loaf b. be'Shogeg and loaf a. be'Meizid?

(b)What will the Din be if he eats loaf a. be'Shogeg? Will he then be Chayav a Korban?

(c)And what does Rava rule in the reverse case, where he eats loaf b. be'Meizid and loaf a. be'Shogeg?

(d)What is the basis for the difference between the two previous rulings? What creates the Chiyuv of a Shevu'ah which is connected to a condition?

3)

(a)In a case where someone makes a Shevu'ah not to eat loaf a. if he eats loaf b., and he eats loaf b. be'Shogeg and loaf a. be'Meizid - Rava exempts him from Malkos.

(b)If he eats loaf a. be'Shogeg, too - Rava will exempt him from a Korban (for the same reason, which we will present shortly).

(c)In the reverse case, where he eats loaf b. be'Meizid and loaf a. be'Shogeg - Rava declares him Chayav Malkos.

(d)The basis of the difference between the two previous rulings is - the fact that the Chiyuv of a Shevu'ah which is connected to a condition comes into effect when the first act takes place (not at the time when the Nishba declares the Shevu'ah), and (based on the D'rashah "ha'Adam", 'bi'Shevu'ah') that act must be performed be'Meizid. Note, that in the former case, where he ate loaf a. be'Meizid, and loaf b. be'Shogeg, he is Patur too, because he concluded the Isur be'Shogeg (Tosfos ha'Rosh).

4)

(a)Based on the previous S'vara, what does Rava say in a case where the Nishba ate both loaves ...

1. ... be'Shogeg?

2. ... be'Meizid, first loaf b. (the T'nai), and then loaf a.?

3. ... be'Meizid, first loaf a. and then loaf b.? Why will he be Patur according to Resh Lakish?

(b)Why will it not help to issue the warning before he eats loaf b., making it a Hasra'as Vaday?

4)

(a)Based on the previous S'vara, Rava rules that in a case where the Nishba ate both loaves ...

1. ... be'Shogeg - he is Patur (since the first act was performed be'Shogeg, as we just explained).

2. ... be'Meizid, first loaf b. (the T'nai), and then loaf a. - he is Chayav Malkos.

3. ... be'Meizid, first loaf a. and then loaf b., he will be Chayav Malkos, according to Rebbi Yochanan, but Patur according to Resh Lakish (who holds 'Hasra'as Safek Lo Sh'mah Hasra'ah').

(b)Nor will it help to warn him before he eats loaf b., making it a Hasra'as Vaday - because the warning must be issued immediately prior to the transgression, and not prior to the condition.

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5)

(a)What does Rava mean when he then discusses ...

1. ... 'Tal'an Zu be'Zu'?

2. ... a case where he eats each one 'be'Zadon Atzmah ve'Shigegas Chavertah'?

(b)Why does he rule 'Patur'...

1. ... on the first loaf?

2. ... on the second loaf?

(c)And what does he mean when ...

1. ... he discusses a case where he ate each loaf 'be'Shigegas Atzmah ve'Zadon Chavertah'?

2. ... he rules 'Chayav'?

(d)Why is he then Patur regarding the first loaf

(e)If he ate both loaves be'Shogeg, Rava rules Patur (because of "ha'Adam" 'bi'Shevu'ah'), and if he ate both be'Meizid, he rules 'Chayav' for the second one. What does he say about the first one, according to

1. ... Rebbi Yochanan?

2. ... Resh Lakish?

5)

(a)When Rava then discusses ...

1. ... 'Tal'an Zu be'Zu', he means that - the Nishba forbids each loaf on the condition that he eats the other one.

2. ... a case where he eats each one 'be'Zadon Atzmah ve'Shigegas Chavertah', he means that - when he ate each loaf, he remembered that he made a Shevu'ah not to eat it, but he forgot about the T'nai (the condition not to eat the second loaf if he eats this one).

(b)He rules 'Patur' ...

1. ... on the first loaf - because he subsequently ate the T'nai be'Shogeg (which exempts him from Malkos, as we learned earlier); nor can he be Chayav a Korban for eating the T'nai be'Shogeg, since he ate the Isur be'Meizid.

2. ... on the second loaf - because since he forgot about the T'nai when he ate it, the Shevu'ah does not take effect in the first place (as we also learned earlier).

(c)And when he ...

1. ... discusses a case where he ate each loaf 'be'Shigegas Atzmah ve'Zadon Chavertah', he means that - the Nishba remembered that what he was eating was a T'nai for the other loaf, but not that the loaf that he was eating was itself forbidden.

2. ... rules 'Chayav' he means that - he is Chayav a Korban on the second loaf, because the Shevu'ah took effect when he ate the first one remembering that it was a T'nai on the second one.

(d)He is Patur regarding the first loaf however - because, although he later remembered the T'nai, since he forgot the Isur when he ate it, the Shevu'ah did not take effect in the first place.

(e)If he ate both loaves be'Shogeg, Rava rules Patur (because of "ha'Adam" 'bi'Shevu'ah'), and if he ate both be'Meizid, he is Chayav for the second one ...

1. ... and for the first one, according to Rebbi Yochanan, but ...

2. ... Patur, according to Resh Lakish (since it is a Hasra'as Safek).

6)

(a)The Mishnah in Nedarim lists four types of Neder that do not take effect, one of them is Nidrei Shegagos. What does the Tana there say about someone who declares something Asur on the assumption that he ate or drank that day (thinking that he did not), and then remembered that in fact, he did?

(b)Which second case does the Tana include in Nidrei Shegagos?

(c)What does Rav Mari prove from there?

(d)How does Rav Mari know that the Mishnah ...

1. ... which is speaking specifically about Nidrei Shegagos, extends to Shevu'os Shegagos as well?

2. ... is speaking where the Nishba connected his Neder to a condition? Maybe he is speaking where he simply said 'Konem alai Achilah', and forgot and ate?

3. ... means Patur and Mutar? Maybe the Tana means that he is only Patur from Malkos?

6)

(a)The Mishnah in Nedarim lists four types of Neder that do not take effect, one of them is 'Nidrei Shegagos'. The Tana there rules that if someone who declares something Asur on the assumption that he ate or drank that day (thinking that he did not), and then remembered that in fact, he did - he is Patur.

(b)The Tana also includes in Nidrei Shegagos - where he declared something Asur in the event that he would eat or drink that day, and he subsequently forgot the T'nai and ate, in which case he is permitted to eat the specified food or drink.

(c)Rav Mari proves from there - Rava's ruling that if the Nishba first ate the T'nai loaf be'Shogeg, he will be Patur should he later eat the loaf of Isur.

(d)Rav Mari knows that the Mishnah ...

1. ... which is speaking specifically about Nidrei Shegagos, extends to Shevu'os Shegagos - because the Beraisa equates them.

2. ... is speaking where the Nishba connected his Neder to a condition, because, if he was speaking when he simply said 'Konem alai Achilah', and forgot and ate - then the word 'Mutar' would make no sense, seeing as he already transgressed the Neder.

3. ... means Patur and Mutar, because, if the Tana meant that he is only Patur from Malkos, then - firstly that would be obvious (seeing as he transgressed be'Shogeg), and secondly - because that would be equating Mutar with Patur, when really, it has very different connotations.

7)

(a)What did Avimi comment when Eifah his brother (who was learning Shevu'os in Rabah's Yeshivah) in reply to his question, answered 'Shevu'ah she'Lo Achalti, Shevu'ah she'Lo Achalti, Eino Chayav Ela Achas' (because of the principle 'Ein Shevu'ah Chalah al Shevu'ah')?

(b)So when does the principle 'Ein Shevu'ah Chalah al Shevu'ah' apply?

(c)And what did Eifah rule when Avimi asked him what the Din will be if someone declares ...

1. ... that he will not eat nine figs, and then that he will not eat ten?

2. ... that he will not eat ten figs, and then that he will not eat nine?

(d)On what grounds did Avimi correct his brother's...

1. ... earlier ruling?

2. ... latter ruling?

7)

(a)When Eifah (who was learning Shevu'os in Rabah's Yeshivah) in reply to his brother Avimi's question, answered 'Shevu'ah she'Lo Achalti, Shevu'ah she'Lo Achalti' replied 'Eino Chayav Ela Achas' (because of the principle 'Ein Shevu'ah Chalah al Shevu'ah'), the latter commented - that he was mistaken, since, the moment each Shevu'ah was uttered, it was an independent Shevu'as Shav) ...

(b)... and the principle 'Ein Shevu'ah Chalah al Shevu'ah' applies - only in the future ('Konem alai Kikar Zu, Konem alai Kikar Zu' [since there, each Shevu'ah effects the validity of the Shevu'ah, but is not an actual transgression]).

(c)And when Avimi asked Eifah further what the Din will be if someone declares ...

1. ... that he will not eat nine figs, and then that he will not eat ten, he ruled - that he will be Chayav for each Shevu'ah (because he considers them to be two separate Shevu'os).

2. ... that he will not eat ten figs, and then that he will not eat nine, he ruled - that he will only be Chayav for the first Shevu'ah (because of the principle that 'nine is included in ten').

(d)Avimi corrected his brother's ...

1. ... earlier ruling however on the grounds that - someone who does not eat nine figs, does certainly not eat ten (in which case the second Shevu'ah is included in the first one).

2. ... latter ruling, on the grounds that - the first Shevu'ah implied that he will not eat ten figs but that he will perhaps eat nine (and the second Shevu'ah, comes to forbid nine figs too), thereby reversing the rulings.

8)

(a)Abaye quoted a ruling of Rabah. What did Rabah say about someone who declares that he will not eat figs and grapes, and then, after making a second Shevu'ah that he will not eat figs, he eats figs and after then designating a Korban for having transgressed the second Shevu'ah, he goes and eats grapes?

(b)Why do the grapes not combine with the figs to obligate him to bring a Korban on the first Shevu'ah, too?

(c)Why is he not Chayav anyway for eating just the grapes?

(d)How did Abaye partially corroborate Eifah's latter ruling from there?

8)

(a)Abaye quoted a ruling of Rabah. In a case where someone who declares that he will not eat figs and grapes, and then, after making a second Shevu'ah that he will not eat figs, he eats figs and after then designating a Korban for having transgressed the second Shevu'ah, he goes and eats grapes, Rabah ruled that - he is Patur from a Korban for eating the grapes.

(b)The grapes do not combine with the figs to obligate him to bring a Korban on the first Shevu'ah, too - because he already designated a Korban when he ate them.

(c)Nor is he Chayav anyway for eating just the grapes - since that constitutes 'Chatzi-Shi'ur' (meaning half the designated Shi'ur), for which one is not Chayav.

(d)Abaye partially corroborated Eifah's latter ruling from there - because likewise in that case, he would be Patur for eating the tenth fig only after he designated a Korban for eating the first nine.

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