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12TH CYCLE DEDICATION
NEDARIM 12-14 - Two weeks of Dafyomi study material have been dedicated by Ms. Estanne Abraham-Fawer to honor the eighth Yahrzeit of her father, Rav Mordechai ben Eliezer Zvi (Rabbi Morton Weiner) Z'L, who passed away on 18 Teves 5760. May the merit of supporting and advancing Dafyomi study -- which was so important to him -- during the weeks of his Yahrzeit serve as an Iluy for his Neshamah.
If someone vows that an object should be like the flesh of an Olah after Zerikah it is a valid vow. (1)
If someone vows that an object should be like a Davar Asur it is not an effective vow. (2)
A vow not to eat meat or drink wine just like the day that one's father died is a valid Neder, if he previously made a Neder prohibiting the day that his father died. (3)
If someone vows that an object should be forbidden like the Chalah of Aharon or like Terumah it is permitted. (4)
If someone vows that an object should be forbidden like the Terumas ha'Lishkah it is a valid Neder.
The Terumah from the breads of the Todah is permitted only after the Zerikas ha'Dam.
If the breads of the Korban Todah are baked in four Chalos it is valid. (5)
If the four Chalos that are given to the Kohen from the Lachmei Todah are separated while they are still dough, it is valid.
The four Chalos that are given to the Kohen from the Lachmei Todah must be from each one of the four types of Chalos.
The four Chalos that are given to the Kohen from the Lachmei Todah must be whole Chalos.
If someone vows that an object should be Asur like a Bechor Rebbi Yakov says that it is a valid Neder and Rebbi Yehudah holds that it is not a Neder.
A BIT MORE
1. The flesh of an Olah remains forbidden even after the Zerikas ha'Dam. Therefore the vow is valid. However the flesh of other Korbanos are permitted after the Zerikas ha'Dam.
2. A Neder is only effective if you prohibit an object like a Davar ha'Nadur – something that is prohibited with a Neder, as opposed to something that is prohibited by the Torah.
3. Since he made a Neder prohibiting the day that his father died he is making a Neder with a Davar ha'Nadur and it is effective.
4. Because Chalah and Terumah are regarded as Davar ha'Asur and not as Davar ha'Nadur.
5. L'Chatchilah the breads should be baked as forty Chalos, ten for each type of Chalah. However, b'Di'eved if they are baked in four Chalos, one Chalah for each type, it is valid.
If the four Chalos that are given to the Kohen from the Lachmei Todah are separated while they are still dough it is valid. The Rosh says that this is inexact and in truth the Terumas Lachmei Todah may not be separated before the Shechitah. The Chidush is that the Lachmei Todah that are separated between the Shechitah and the Zerikah are valid. The reason is because the Shechitah sanctifies the Lechem if they are baked prior to the Shechitah and prior to that they are not even called Lachmei Todah. In order for the Shechitah to sanctify the Lechem they must be baked prior to the Shechitah.
CHALAS AHARON AND TERUMAH
Someone who says that these fruit should be forbidden like the Chalah of Aharon or his Terumah, the fruit are permitted because [Chalah and Terumah] may never be brought as a Neder or a Nedavah. (Rambam Hilchos Nedarim 1:11)
The intent of the Rambam is that even though Chalah and Terumah are prohibited by means of Keri'as Shem nevertheless it is not a Davar ha'Nadur because they are not brought as a Neder. (Radbaz)
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