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1. Bitul b'Rov exception 2. In Point by Point Outline of the Daf 3. טמא פסול
 DAF DISCUSSIONS - ZEVACHIM 22
1. Daniel Gray asks:

Hi

2.

(Rav Yehudah bar Shila): This may be repeated until the majority of the Mikveh is other liquids.

Note that Rashi says "v'Lo Rubo b'Chlal"

which invalidates the above cited translation.

DGRAY the CPA

2. The Kollel replies:

Rashi is going with the opinion (in several places in the Gemara; see, for example, Berachos 26b) of Ad v'Lo Ad b'Chlal.

Kesivah v'Chasimah Tovah,

Dovid Bloom

3. Daniel Gray asks:

Hi,

Thank you for the reply on, Bitul b'Rov exception, which was submitted with intent as a question.

From your reply to my other point, it seems to me both my intent and content were not conveyed clear enough to make them properly understood, so I ll try to do so now.

Note that I did not intend my other point (Note that Rashi says "v'Lo Rubo b'Chlal") as a question but rather as a suggestion that the kollel amend its point by point (PBP) at https://dafyomi.co.il/zevachim/points/zv-ps-022.htm of:

(Rav Yehudah bar Shila): This may be repeated until the majority of the Mikveh is other liquids.

The way it reads now This may be repeated until the majority of the Mikveh is other liquids conveys that such proactive bitul (inserting a saeh of fruit juice) may continue to produce a kosher mikveh until the majority of the Mikveh is other liquids (whereby there is more fruit juice than water in the mikveh).

I suggest revising this since such statement does not appear to be in accordance with Rashi who says says "v'Lo Rubo b'Chlal" and such bitul (whereby there is more fruit juice than water in the mikveh) would not result in a kosher mikveh. I propose revising PBP to instead state:

This may be repeated until up to half (but not more Rashi v'Lo Rubo b'Chlal) of the Mikveh is other liquids.

Daniel Gray

4. The Kollel replies:

R' Daniel, thank you for your very perceptive comment. I agree totally with the Halachic point that you are making; namely, that since we wrote "until the majority of the Mikveh is other liquids" this leaves room for misinterpretation as one could conclude from this that if there is more fruit juice than water the Mikveh is still kosher.

However, I still believe that we have translated the Gemara correctly, since "Ad Rubo" is translated "until the majority."

It is true that we have not mentioned Rashi's addition to the Gemara that if most of the Mikveh is fruit juice it is Pasul. However, since we do not always incorporate every statement of Rashi in the PBP pages, I argue that we have been faithful to our aims. I agree that when it comes to the Halachic conclusion one has to be careful but that is not our mandate with PBP.

At any rate, thank you for the very true and important comment about Halachic accuracy.

Yasher Ko'ach,

Dovid Bloom