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1. Dibur is not a Ma'aseh	2. Pshat in Rashi	3. Which Mesichta comes before Makos?
4. Keitzad Ein HaEdim Neasim Zomemim	5. Edut Sh'eino Yachol L'haziman	6. Question on the second Kal Vachomer.
7. Rebbi Yochanan's Kal v'Chomer	8. Eidim Zomemim	9. Rebbi Yochanan's Kal v'Chomer
10. Does the Gerushah become a Chalalah?	11. Damages	12. Iy Atah Yachol Lehazimah, and Kim Lei...
13. 40 lashes	14. Minah Hani Mili	15. Edus she'I Efshar l'Hazimah
16. Malkus for Edim Zomemim in a case of Ben Gerushah, Tosfos	17. Question on Suggestion of First Tosfos	18. First Tosfos on Daf 2a
19. Mitzri Sheni	20. Lo Sa'aneh Without an Action	21. Mitzri Sheni
22. Ben Gerushah And Ben Chalutzah	23. Chalutzah	24. Galus
25. Chalalah	26. R Yochanons Kal v'Chomer- Insights	27. Killing b'Shogeg or b'Meizid
28. Ma'aseh or not?	29. Ein Adam Oseh Atzmo Rasha	30. Ben Gerushah
31. Ein Adam Oseh Atzmo Rasha	32. Eidus she'Iy Atah Yachol l'Hazimah	33. Monetary Matters and Hazamah
34. Ka'asher Zamam through Malkos - Tosfos	35. Edim Zomemim	36. The very first Tosfos
37. v'Lo Ka'asher Asah	38. Tosfos on "Mah ha'Sokel"	39. Tosfos and Maharsha 2b
40. R. Yochanan's Kal v'Chomer	41. Question on the Ritva from Shifchah Charufah (in Insights)	42. מכות בגימטריא הרהורים
43. מכות בגימטריא הרהורים	44. תוספות ד"ה מעידין	45. אין עושין בהן דין הזמה כל עיקר
46. והצדיקו את הצדיק	47. בגניבתו ולא בזממו

More Discussions for this daf

1. Dibur is not a Ma'aseh

2. Pshat in Rashi

3. Which Mesichta comes before Makos?

4. Keitzad Ein HaEdim Neasim Zomemim

5. Edut Sh'eino Yachol L'haziman

6. Question on the second Kal Vachomer.

7. Rebbi Yochanan's Kal v'Chomer

8. Eidim Zomemim

9. Rebbi Yochanan's Kal v'Chomer

10. Does the Gerushah become a Chalalah?

11. Damages

12. Iy Atah Yachol Lehazimah, and Kim Lei...

13. 40 lashes

14. Minah Hani Mili

15. Edus she'I Efshar l'Hazimah

16. Malkus for Edim Zomemim in a case of Ben Gerushah, Tosfos

17. Question on Suggestion of First Tosfos

18. First Tosfos on Daf 2a

19. Mitzri Sheni

20. Lo Sa'aneh Without an Action

21. Mitzri Sheni

22. Ben Gerushah And Ben Chalutzah

23. Chalutzah

24. Galus

25. Chalalah

26. R Yochanons Kal v'Chomer- Insights

27. Killing b'Shogeg or b'Meizid

28. Ma'aseh or not?

29. Ein Adam Oseh Atzmo Rasha

30. Ben Gerushah

31. Ein Adam Oseh Atzmo Rasha

32. Eidus she'Iy Atah Yachol l'Hazimah

33. Monetary Matters and Hazamah

34. Ka'asher Zamam through Malkos - Tosfos

35. Edim Zomemim

36. The very first Tosfos

37. v'Lo Ka'asher Asah

38. Tosfos on "Mah ha'Sokel"

39. Tosfos and Maharsha 2b

40. R. Yochanan's Kal v'Chomer

41. Question on the Ritva from Shifchah Charufah (in Insights)

42. מכות בגימטריא הרהורים

43. מכות בגימטריא הרהורים

44. תוספות ד"ה מעידין

45. אין עושין בהן דין הזמה כל עיקר

46. והצדיקו את הצדיק

47. בגניבתו ולא בזממו

1. Scott Ragan asked:

In Masechta Makkos, it's brought down that a person (Ed Zomem) who intends to send a person into a galus is not sent into galus. Rather, He Receives Malkus. The Gemara explains that this offers an explanation with a kal vachomer saying, if a person who kills beshogage without a warning, he receives no din, how much more so aid zomemin who did not even kill. How does the Gemara refute the Kal Vachomer.

Scott Ragan, Brooklyn, NewYork

2. The Kollel replies:

The Gemara answers that one who actually accomplishes a Ma'aseh does not go to Galus, for it is insufficient Kaparah for him. However, an Ed Zomem -- who did not actually kill -- perhaps he can get Galus even though his act was done b'Mezid, intentionally.

D. Zupnik