More Discussions for this daf
1. Go'el ha'Dam in an Ir Miklat? 2. Go'el ha'Dam 3. Rambam, Hilchos Rotze'ach 7:10
4. Rav Yehudah and Ma'aseros 5. Having tree trouble 6. The Go'el ha'Dam and Eidim Zomemim
7. Rotze'ach In Mid-Air Over the Ir Miklat 8. Harag b'Osah ha'Ir 9. l'Heichan Golin l'Machaneh Leviah
10. Ben Levi 11. Ki b'Ir Miklato Yeshev 12. Tosfsos - Peirush of the R"M
13. The Trunk Inside and the Branches Outside
 DAF DISCUSSIONS - MAKOS 12
1. Avrahom asks:

Kol Tuv to the Chavrei HaKollel Hakadosh.

I'm trying to understand the Chumrah principle.

Rav Yehudah follow the branches...The branches are inside trunk is outside

He is considered inside always. He cannot be Podeh from the branches he's inside yerushalyim. The chumrah by the trunk physically outside he cannot be Podeh.

1. On the branches he cannot redeem- if he already redeemed it though can he eat it? I assume on the Branches yes they're and he is in Yerushalayim.

Despite the trunk being outside it's considered inside in terms of not being able to Podeh- but if the Trunk is considered inside and the Maaser is ready to be eaten can he eat it on the Trunk accordingly? If he can isn't there a chumrah and huge kullah?

Also (first understanding) when there is a Chumrah for the Goel Hadam isn't there a kullah for someone labeled a Horeig Beshogeig, The branches are in he went on top for whatever reason the branches are outside the techum...that is a kullah for him, and a chumrah on the Goel Hadam.

Vice versa it's a kullah for the Goel Hadam and a Chumrah on the Rotzeach beShogeig?

In terms of the Goel Hadam depending on his emotional status in wanting to kill him can't one see how not being allowed to kill the Rotzeach might be a relief..maybe the anger subsided...maybe he realized wandering around the techum is causing him too much stress after all 24/7 persistence would be a punishment for him as much as the Rotzeach!

Avrahom , United States

2. The Kollel replied:

You asked if he already redeemed, can he eat. I think that since the branches are inside and they don't follow the trunk, so it is not a Kula, and if you are inside you can eat.

Concerning Chumra and Kula, that is always concerning a possibly forbidden act. To permit to kill is a Kula, not connected to feeling better or worse; forbidding to kill is called a Chumra.

Reuven Weiner