1)

(a)Our Mishnah states that, if the Shirayim became Tamei, burned or lost, according to Rebbi Eliezer, the Minchah is Kasher. Which Rebbi Eliezer?

(b)What does Rebbi Yehoshua say with regard to ...

1. ... the blood of a Korban, if the Basar is Tamei, burned or lost?

2. ... the Kometz, if the Shirayim is Tamei, burned or lost?

(c)How does Rav qualify Rebbi Yehoshua? In which case will Nitme'u Shirehah be Kasher?

(d)Assuming that Rav is referring to Nitme'u, and not to Nisrefu or Ne'evdu, what problem do we have with this, if Rav holds ...

1. ... Shiyura Milsa hi?

2. ... Shiyura La'av Milsa hi, and his reason by Nitma is because of Ritzuy Tzitz?

1)

(a)Our Mishnah states that, if the Shirayim is Tamei, burned or lost, the Minchah is Kasher according to Rebbi Eliezer, who rules in Pesachim that Dam, Af-al-Pi she'Ein Basar. By the same token, we will say Kometz, Af-al-Pi she'Ein Shirayim.

(b)Rebbi Yehoshua holds with regard to ...

1. ... blood of a Korban, if the Basar is Tamei, burned or lost - Im Ein Basar, Ein Dam.

2. ... the Kometz, if the Shirayim is Tamei, burned or lost - Im Ein Shirayim, Ein Kometz.

(c)Rav qualifies Rebbi Yehoshua - by confining his ruling to where all of the Shirayim became Tamei, but as long some of it remains Tahor, the Kometz is Kasher.

(d)Assuming that Rav is referring to Nitme'u, and not to Nisr'fu or Ne'evdu, the problem with this, if Rav holds ...

1. ... Shiyura Milsa hi is - why the same will not apply to Nisr'fu and Ne'evdu?

2. ... Shiyura La'av Milsa hi and his reason by Nitma is because of Ritzuy Tzitz - then why is the Minchah not Kasher even if all the Shirayim became Tamei?

2)

(a)We conclude that Rav's reason is because of Shiyura Milsa hi. Why does he then confine his ruling to Nitme'u Shiyrehah?

(b)And we corroborate this with a Beraisa. What does Rebbi Yehoshua say there about ...

1. ... all the Korbanos of which a k'Zayis Basar or a k'Zayis Cheilev remains?

2. ... all the Korbanos of which half a k'Zayis Basar or half a k'Zayis Cheilev remains?

3. ... an Olah of which half a k'Zayis Basar and half a k'Zayis Cheilev remains?

(c)Why do the half-k'Zeisim combine by the Olah, but not by other Korbanos?

2)

(a)We conclude that Rav's reason is because of Shiyura Milsa Hi, and the reason that he confines his ruling to Nitme'u Shiyrehah is (not to preclude Nisr'fu and Ne'evdu, but) - because it is the first of the three cases. In fact, the Halachah extends to Nisr'fu and Ne'evdu as well.

(b)And we corroborate this with a Beraisa, where Rebbi Yehoshua rules that ...

1. ... all the Korbanos of which a k'Zayis Basar or a k'Zayis Cheilev remains - Zorek es ha'Dam.

2. ... all the Korbanos of which half a k'Zayis Basar or half a k'Zayis Cheilev remains - Eino Zorek es ha'Dam.

3. ... an Olah of which half a k'Zayis Basar and half a k'Zayis Cheilev remains - Zorek es ha'Dam.

(c)The reason that the half-k'Zeisim combine by the Olah, but not by other Korbanos is - because whereas by the latter, Achilah and Haktarah do not combine, by the former, they do, since both half-k'Zeisim comprise Haktarah.

3)

(a)How does Rav Papa interpret Rebbi Yehoshua's statement u've'Minchah, Afilu Kulah Kayma, Lo Yizrok? Since when does a Minchah require Zerikas ha'Dam?

(b)Why would we have then thought otherwise?

(c)What does Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Yishmael (or in the name of Rebbi Yehoshua) learn from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Vezarak ha'Kohen es ha'Dam ... Vehiktir ha'Cheilev"?

3)

(a)According to Rav Papa, when Rebbi Yehoshua's states u've'Minchah, Afilu Kulah Kayma, Lo Yizrok, he is referring to the Minchas Nesachim that accompanies a Korban.

(b)We would otherwise have thought - that precisely because it accompanies the Korban, it is considered part of the Korban and is no different than the Cheilev in this regard.

(c)Rebbi Yochanan in the name of Rebbi Yishmael (or in the name of Rebbi Yehoshua) learns from the Pasuk in Vayikra "Vezarak ha'Kohen es ha'Dam ... Vehiktir ha'Cheilev" that - as long as the Cheilev (or a k'Zayis of Cheilev) remains, the Kohen may perform the Zerikas ha'Dam (even though no Basar remains).

4)

(a)What do we extrapolate from the Beraisa u've'Minchah, Afilu Kulah Kayemes, Lo Yizrok. What does this preclude?

(b)What does Rebbi Yochanan learn from "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach" (in the same Pasuk)?

(c)The Torah needs to write "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach", to teach us the Din of Yoseres and the Sh'tei ha'Kelayos, which we would not have known from Cheilev (presumably because they are less attached to the Basar than the Cheilev). But having written "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach, why does it need to write "Cheilev"?

4)

(a)We extrapolate from the Beraisa u've'Minchah, Afilu Kulah Kayemes, Lo Yizrok that - if the Yoseres (ha'Kaveid) or the Sh'tei Kelayos remain, Yizrok.

(b)Rebbi Yochanan learns from "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach" (in the same Pasuk) that - whatever remains, as long as it serves the purpose of Re'ach Ni'cho'ach, it will enable the Kohen to sprinkle the blood (such as the Yoseres and the Sh'tei ha'Kelayos).

(c)The Torah needs to write "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach", to teach us the Din of Yoseres and the Sh'tei ha'Kelayos, which we would not have known from Cheilev (presumably because they are less attached to the Basar than it is). And having written "le'Re'ach Nicho'ach, it still needs to write "Cheilev" - to preclude a Minchas Nesachim, which on its own, does not enable the Dam to be sprinkled (as we just learned).

5)

(a)Our Mishnah states she'Lo bi'Cheli Shareis, Pasul. What does Rebbi Shimon say?

(b)Over which Avodah are they arguing?

(c)Why can they not be arguing with regard to sanctifying the initial Minchah?

(d)What does the Tana say about burning the Kometz in two lots?

5)

(a)Our Mishnah states she'Lo bi'Cheli Shareis, Pasul - ve'Rebbi Shimon Machshir'.

(b)They are arguing over - Kidush Kometz.

(c)They cannot be arguing with regard to sanctifying the initial Minchah - since it is obvious that it requires a K'li Shareis (as we will learn in the eleventh Perek).

(d)The Tana rules that if the Kometz is burned in two lots - it is Kasher.

6)

(a)To explain Rebbi Shimon, , what does Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya learn from the word ...

1. ... "ka'Chatas" (in the Pasuk in Tzav [in connection with the Kometz]) "Kodesh Kodshim hi, ka'Chatas ve'cha'Asham"?

2. ... "ve'cha'Asham"?

(b)What does Rebbi Yanai say? What are Hemyano and Makeidah?

(c)Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak disagrees with both opinions. What does he say?

6)

(a)To explain Rebbi Shimon, Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya learns from the word ...

1. ... "ka'Chatas" (in the Pasuk in Tzav) "Kodesh Kodshim hi, ka'Chatas ve'cha'Asham" that - should the Kohen decide to bring the Kometz with his hand, then he must bring it with his right hand (like the Avodah of a Chatas).

2. ... "ve'cha'Asham" that - if he decides to bring it in a K'li Shareis, then he may do so even with his left hand (like an Asham).

(b)According to Rebbi Yanai - once the Kohen performs the Kemitzah from a K'li Shareis, he may even carry it to the Mizbe'ach using Hemyano or Makeidah (his belt or in an earthenware vessel).

(c)Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak maintains that - the Komeitz initially requires Kidush K'li (see Chidushei Rashba).

7)

(a)We query Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya from a Beraisa. What does the Tana there say about ...

1. ... Hekter Chalavim ve'Eivarim ve'Eitzim?

2. ... the Kometz, the Ketores and the Levonah?

(b)How do we know that the author of this Beraisa is Rebbi Shimon?

(c)How will Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya interpret the Seifa of the Beraisa?

7)

(a)We query Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya from a Beraisa, where the Tana validates ...

1. ... Hekter Chalavim ve'Eivarim ve'Eitzim - both with the hand and with a K'li, both with the right hand and with the left ...

2. ... and the same applies to the Kometz, the Ketores and the Levonah.

(b)The author of this Beraisa must be Rebbi Shimon - because he is the Tana who permits Avodah with the left hand.

(c)Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya will interpret the Seifa of the Beraisa - li'Tzedadin, either with the right hand, or in a K'li even with his left (to conform to his earlier ruling).

8)

(a)What does the Beraisa rule in a case where Kamtzo mi'Cheli Shareis ve'Kidsho she'Lo bi'Cheli Shareis, Ve'he'elo Ve'hiktiro she'Lo bi'Cheli Shareis?

(b)Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon are Machshir *be'Matan K'li*. Why does this pose a Kashya on Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak?

(c)How does the latter therefore amend the Beraisa?

(d)How does this answer the Kashya?

8)

(a)In a case where Kamtzo mi'Cheli Shareis ve'Kidsho she'Lo bi'Cheli Shareis, Ve'he'elo Ve'hiktiro she'Lo bi'Cheli Shareis, the Beraisa rules - Pasul ...

(b)... Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon are Machshir *be'Matan K'li*. This poses a Kashya on Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak in that - it implies that placing the Kometz does not require a K'li Shareis.

(c)The latter therefore amends the Beraisa to read - Rebbi Elazar ve'Rebbi Shimon Machshirin *mi'Matan K'li* va'Eilech ...

(d)... in which case - it is Holachah and Haktarah (the Avodos that follow the Kemitzah) that do not require a K'li Shareis, but placing the Kometz does.

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9)

(a)In another Beraisa, the Chachamim require the Kometz to be taken from a K'li Shareis and placed into a K'li Shareis. What do they say about taking the Kometz on to the Mizbe'ach?

(b)How will Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak amend the Seifa Rebbi Shimon Omer, Keivan she'Kamtzo mi'Cheli Shareis, Ma'alo u'Maktiro, ve'Dayo?

(c)What do Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa say in a case where the Kohen performed the Kemitzah with his right hand and transferred the Kometz to his left hand?

(d)What do they then rule in a case where the Kohen had a Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomo or Chutz li'Zemano ...

1. ... whilst the Kometz was still in his left hand?

2. ... after he returned it to his right hand?

9)

(a)In another Beraisa, the Chachamim require the Kometz to be taken from a K'li Shareis, placed into a K'li Shareis - and taken to the Mizbe'ach in a K'li Shareis.

(b)Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak will amend the Seifa 'Rebbi Shimon Omer, Keivan she'Kamtzo *mi'Cheli Shareis*, Ma'alo u'Maktiro, ve'Dayo' - to read ' ... Keivan she'Kamtzo ve'Kidsho *bi'Cheli Shareis*, Ma'alo u'Maktiro, ve'Dayo'.

(c)In a case where the Kohen performed the Kemitzah with his right hand and transferred the Kometz to his left hand, Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon in a Beraisa - require him to transfer it back to his right hand.

(d)If the Kohen had a Machsheves Chutz li'Mekomo or Chutz li'Zemano ...

1. ... whilst the Kometz was still in his left hand, they rule that - the Korban is Pasul, but that it is not subject to Kareis (see Shitah Mekubetzes 1).

2. ... after he returned it to his right hand - then in the case of the Machsheves Chutz li'Zemano, it is subject to Kareis, too.

10)

(a)On what grounds do the Rabbanan invalidate a Kometz which the Kohen transferred to his left hand?

(b)What is the basis of the Machlokes? On what grounds do Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon validate the Kometz which the Kohen transferred to his left-hand?

(c)On whom is this a Tiyuvta (on which we have no answer)?

(d)In which way does this Beraisa also lend support to Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya?

(e)In that case, it is a Tiyuvta on Rebbi Yanai (who permits even carrying the Kometz in the Kohen's belt or in an earthenware vessel). How will he counter the Kashya? Like which Beraisa will he hold?

10)

(a)The Rabbanan invalidate a Kometz which the Kohen transferred to his left hand - because it still requires Kidush K'li, and it is like blood that fell on the floor before being placed in a K'li.

(b)Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon validate the Kometz which the Kohen transferred to his left-hand - because they do not require a K'li, and it is comparable to blood that fell on the floor *after* having been placed in a K'li Shareis, which remains Kasher once it is retrieved.

(c)This is a Tiyuvta (on which we have no answer) - on Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak, who maintains that even Rebbi Elazar and Rebbi Shimon require Kidush Kometz.

(d)This Beraisa also lends support to Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya in that - it requires the Kohen to return the Kometz to his right hand, should he intend to carry the Kometz to the Mizbe'ach with his hand.

(e)In that case, it is a Tiyuvta on Rebbi Yanai (who permits even carrying the Kometz in the Kohen's belt or in an earthenware vessel). Rebbi Yanai will counter that - he holds like the Beraisa of Hekter Chalavim ve'Eivarim, without establishing it li'Tzedadin (like Yehudah b'rei de'Rebbi Chiya did).

11)

(a)What does Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi mean when he comments on our Mishnah (Hiktir Komtzah Pa'amayim, Kesheirah) Pa'amayim, ve'Lo Pa'amei Pa'amayim?

(b)What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(c)Rebbi Zeira explains how each one extrapolates his opinion from 'Hiktir Komtzah Pa'amayim'. According to him, over which two points are they arguing?

(d)How does that explain the opinion of ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi?

2. ... Rebbi Yochanan?

11)

(a)When Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi comments on our Mishnah (Hiktir Komtzah Pa'amayim, Kesheirah) Pa'amayim, ve'Lo Pa'amei Pa'amayim, he means that - the Kometz can be brought in two lots, but not in three.

(b)Rebbi Yochanan holds - Pa'amayim, va'Afilu Pa'amei Pa'amayim.

(c)Rebbi Zeira explains how each one extrapolate his opinion from 'Hiktir Komtzah Pa'amayim', and they are arguing over - whether a. there can be a Kometz of less than two k'Zeisim, and b. a Haktarah of less than a k'Zayis (Rebbi Yochanan), or not (Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi).

(d)Consequently, according to ...

1. ... Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi - Pa'amayim (which has to be at least two k'Zeisim) entails burning the Kometz in two lots, but not three.

2. ... Rebbi Yochanan, seeing as the Kometz can be less than two k'Zeisim, 'Pa'amayim' will entail burning less than a k'Zayis at a time, in which case, they may just as well burn it in three or four lots.

12)

(a)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with the Shirayei ha'Minchah) "Kodshei Kodshim me'Ishei Hash-m"?

(b)According to Rebbi Chanina, this refers to as soon as the fire has started to burn part of the Kometz. What does Rebbi Yochanan say?

(c)How did Rav Yehudah prove Rebbi Yochanan's opinion to Rabah bar Rav Nachman from the Pasuk in Vayeira (in connection with the burning of S'dom) "ve'Hinei Alah Kitor ha'Aretz ke'Kitor ha'Kivshan? What does that have to do with the burning of the Kometz?

12)

(a)We learn from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with the Shirayei ha'Minchah) "Kodesh Kodshim me'Ishei Hash-m" that - the Kohanim only receive a portion from the Shirayim after the Kometz has become a fire-offering .

(b)According to Rebbi Chanina, this refers to as soon as the fire has stared to burn part of the Kometz. Rebbi Yochanan says - only after the fire has burned the majority of the Kometz.

(c)Rav Yehudah proved this to Rabah bar Rav Nachman from the Pasuk (in connection with the burning of S'dom) "ve'Hinei Alah *Kitor* ha'Aretz ke'Kitor ha'Kivshan - because smoke only rises from a furnace once the majority of its contents have caught fire (and the Pasuk uses the word "*Ve'hiktir*" by the Minchah, too).

13)

(a)We learn from the Pasuk in Tzav "Hi ha'Olah al Mokdah al ha'Mizbe'ach Kol ha'Laylah" that the Evarim u'Pedarim burn all night on the Mizbe'ach. Why might we have thought that this does not apply to the Kometz, the Levonah, the Ketores, the Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach and the Minchas Nesachim?

(b)This latter list incorporates virtually all the Korbanos. Which would then be the only Korban to burn all night?

(c)How do we reconcile the Beraisa's insertion of Minchas Nesachim with the ruling Minchasam ve'Niskeihem ba'Laylah?

(d)What does the Beraisa cited by Ravin bar Rav Ada ... citing Rav Amram, learn from the Pasuk in Tzav "Zos Toras ha'Olah" (ibid)?

13)

(a)We learn from the Pasuk "Hi ha'Olah al Mokdah al ha'Mizbe'ach Kol ha'Laylah" that the Eivarim u'Pedarim burn all night on the Mizbe'ach. We might have thought that this does not apply to the Kometz, the Levonah, the Ketores, the Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach and the Minchas Nesachim - because (unlike the Evarim u'Pedarim) they all need to be brought by day.

(b)This latter list incorporates virtually all the Korbanos. The only Korban that would then burn all night would be - the Olah.

(c)We reconcile the Beraisa's insertion of Minchas Nesachim with the ruling Minchasam ve'Niskeihem ba'Laylah - by establishing the former by Nesachim that are brought together with the Korban (exclusively).

(d)The Beraisa cited by Ravin bar Rav Ada ... citing Rav Amram learns from the Pasuk "Zos Toras ha'Olah" (ibid) that - all the above Korbanos have the same Din as the Olah, and may be burned at night.

14)

(a)The Beraisa states she'Ma'alan u'Maktiran mi'Bo ha'Shemesh. What problem do we have with ...

1. ... this Lashon?

2. ... amending it to Im Ba ha'Shemesh?

(b)We answer Ka'an Lehaklit, Ka'an Lehatir. What do we mean by that?

(c)Rebbi Elazar retains the original Lashon mi'Bo ha'Shemesh'. How does he establish the Beraisa to answer the Kashya from Darkan Likarev ba'Yom?

14)

(a)The Beraisa states she'Ma'alan u'Maktiran mi'Bo ha'Shemesh. The problem with ...

1. ... this Lashon is - how one can place the Korbanos on the Mizbe'ach after nightfall, seeing as they already became Pasul be'Linah with the advent of night?

2. ... amending it to Im Ba ha'Shemesh is - how the fire will be able to burn the majority of each limb before nightfall (to prevent it from becoming Pasul be'Linah), as required by Rebbi Yochanan.

(b)We answer Ka'an Lehaklit, Ka'an Lehatir - although Rebbi Yochanan may well require the majority of the limbs to be burned to permit the Shirayim to be eaten, he will concede that the Korban leaves the realm of Linah as soon as part of the Kometz is burning (like the Shi'ur of Rebbi Chanina).

(c)Rebbi Elazar retains the original Lashon mi'Bo ha'Shemesh, and he answers the Kashya from Darkan Likarev ba'Yom - by establishing the Beraisa with regard to limbs that have fallen off the Mizbe'ach (Pok'in) exclusively.

15)

(a)What problem do we have with the fact that Rav Dimi cites Rebbi Yanai as holding the same view as Rebbi Elazar? What did Rebbi Yanai say about Ketores that falls off the Mizbe'ach (ha'Zahav)?

(b)And what did Rav Chanina bar Minyumi quoting a Beraisa of Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov learn from the Pasuk "Asher Tochal ha'Eish es ha'Olah al ha'Mizbe'ach"?

(c)How do we resolve the problem?

15)

(a)The problem with the fact that Rav Dimi cites Rebbi Yanai as holding the same view as Rebbi Elazar is that - Rebbi Yanai specifically rules that Ketores that falls off the Mizbe'ach (ha'Zahav) cannot be returned (and the Beraisa currently under discussion includes Ketores in its list).

(b)And what's more, Rav Chanina bar Minyumi quoting a Beraisa of Rebbi Eliezer ben Ya'akov learns from the Pasuk "Asher Tochal ha'Eish es ha'Olah al ha'Mizbe'ach" that - even whole granules of Ketores that fall off the Mizbe'ach may not be returned.

(c)We resolve the problem - by removing Ketores from the list in the Beraisa.

16)

(a)What did Rebbi Elazar ask about arranging the Ma'arachah for the Korbanos on top of the Kometz? Why might it not be permissible?

(b)Chizkiyah asked a similar She'eilah about arranging the Ma'arachah on top of the Evarim (which apparently, is less unconventional than arranging it on top of the Kometz). Why then, may it nevertheless not be permissible?

(c)What does he then suggest that one can learn from the Pasuk there "Asher Tochal ha'Eish es ha'Olah al ha'Mizbe'ach"?

(d)What is the outcome of both She'eilos?

16)

(a)Rebbi Elazar asked - whether it is permissible to arrange the Ma'arachah for the Korbanos on top of the Kometz, seeing as it might not be considered conventional to burn animals in this way.

(b)Chizkiyah asked a similar She'eilah about arranging the Ma'arachah on top of the Evarim (which apparently, is less unconventional than arranging it on top of the Kometz). It may nevertheless not be permitted to do so - because the Torah writes "al ha'Eitzim" (and not 'al ha'Olah').

(c)On the other hand, he suggests, perhaps we will learn from the Pasuk there "Asher Tochal ha'Eish es ha'Olah al ha'Mizbe'ach" that - the Kohen has the option of placing the Olah directly on the Mizbe'ach and the wood on top of it.

(d)The outcome of both She'eilos is Teiku (Tishbi Yetaretz Kushyos ve'Ibayos).

17)

(a)What are the two possible meanings of the word "Al"?

(b)Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha asked whether it is permissible to place the Evarim beside the Ma'arachah. Seeing as the Torah writes "al ha'Eitzim", how does this She'eilah initially tie up with the two interpretations of Al?

(c)On what grounds does Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha think that, even if Al can mean beside, it might not mean that here?

(d)What is the outcome of the She'eilah?

17)

(a)The word "Al" can mean either on or beside.

(b)Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha asked whether it is acceptable to place the Eivarim beside the Ma'arachah (and not on top of it). Seeing as the Torah writes "Al ha'Eitzim", this She'eilah initially ties up with the two interpretations of Al - because, if it means on top of, then it is obvious that placing it at the side is not permissible; whereas if it means beside, then it is.

(c)Rebbi Yitzchak Nafcha however maintains that, even if Al can mean beside, it might not mean that here - because the Torah also writes "al ha'Mizbe'ach" which can only mean on the Mizbe'ach, so just as there it means on, so too, by "al ha'Eitzim" does it mean on, and not beside.

(d)The outcome of the She'eilah is - Teiku.

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