More Discussions for this daf
1. Questions from Daf 13-21 2. R Shimon Ben Gamliel "Ma'aseh Rav" 3. Mistake in Question
4. Chashmona'im 5. Yonah's Kikoyon 6. Rav Huna and Rav Chisda
7. Time Chanukah Lights Must Burn 8. Miracle of Oil 9. The Parei ha'Chag of Sukkos and the Chanukah lights
10. Ner Ish u'Beiso 11. Mehadrin and Pirsum Nes 12. Mehadrin
13. The eight day miracle 14. The argument between Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel how to light the Chanukah lights 15. Hillel and Shamai
16. How to light the Chanukah candles: 17. Neros After 30 Minutes 18. Next year...
19. Eight days of Chanukah 20. שיטת אביי 21. טעמי ב"ש וב"ה
DAF DISCUSSIONS - SHABBOS 21

Yosey Goldstein asked:

Not at all daf yomi related BUT.... It is chanuka related

The Chayai Odom AND mishna Berurah Posken that cancles burning more than 30 Minutes in NOT a hiddur. (There is a Shitta that Hiddur Mitzva is ONLY in the mitzva and after 30 Minutes there is no mitzvah)

NOW IS this ONLY in older times when people were not in the street after 30 minutes after Tzais, and therefore there is no Pirsumay nissa and therefore no hiddur mitzva OR is it even today. The mitzva of pirsumay nissa only last for 30 minutes no matter when you light.

Now if there is no pirsumay nissa after 30 Minutes if one uses enough oil last for HOURS is there a question of BAAL TASHCHIS. After all there is no purpose in leaving it burn so long! (Unless one bedavka does use the lights from the menora)

What do you say?

A frailichen Chanuka

Yosey

The Kollel replies:

It is accepted practice today that "Ad she'Yichleh Regel" is considered a Mitzvah, even after a half an hour passes. The Brisker Rav lit his candles until the end of the last show in Edison movie theater (which was across the street from his apartment).

D. Zupnik