More Discussions for this daf
1. Keri'as Shema - biblical or rabbinic? 2. Day and then night 3. Eating in the dark
4. Temimus 5. The posuk beshochbicha uvikumecha 6. Zman Krias Shma
7. earliest time to say Shema in the evening 8. Uva Hashemesh Vetaher 9. When does a poor man eat?
10. Be'arvin 11. What to read 12. The poor man's meal
13. Being Motzi another person with Shema 14. Eating korbanot until chatzot 15. The opposite of Tahor....
16. Sitting during Shema 17. Charts 18. When does Day Begin?
19. Does the Ri agree with the Yerushalmi 20. va'Yehi Erev va'Yehi Voker Yom Echad 21. Berachos 002: Shema
22. Kri'as Shema 23. To keep a person from Aveirah 24. Night or Day?
25. mi'Sha'ah sheha'Kohanim 26. Where do the Kohanim eat Terumah? 27. "reading" ; what about Kohanim?
28. Sof Zeman Shema 29. Second Answer of the Gemara 30. Zemanim
31. Rashi's Shitah for early Ma'ariv 32. Different Shitos in Shema 33. k'Sus ha'Zeh she'Eino Nirdam
34. Sunrise and Sunset 35. Translation of the Word "mi'Chi" 36. Tzeis or Bein ha'Shemashos
37. When do the Poor Eat? 38. The Gemara's Second Answer 39. Ashkenazi Keri'as Shema at Bedtime
40. Sunrise / Sunset 41. Iy Ba'is Eima 42. Which Shi'ur is earlier?
43. Zman Shema 44. When An Ani Eats His Bread 45. Rabeinu Tam in Tosfos
46. Is there a typo in the first Tosfos? 47. Times for Keri'as Shema 48. Tosfos and Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi
49. Codewords for Time of Earliest Kerias Shema 50. Me'eimasai 51. Korei vs Kor'in
52. Tzeis ha'Kochavim 53. Latest time 54. Time for saying Shema
55. בערבין 56. מתי אוכלים העניים 57. משעה שהעני אוכל פתו
DAF DISCUSSIONS - BERACHOS 2

Yitzi Niasoff asks:

First Tosfos asks on Rashi that if Kerias Shema Al ha'Mitah is the Ikar, then we are paskening like Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi (on 4b).

However on the the bottom of 4b we see that Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi holds Kerias Shema b'Veis Ha'Knesses is the Ikar. How can tosfos use that to disprove Rashi?

The second question is. According to the opinions that R' Yehudah is going like Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi, from the first statement of Rebbi Yehoshua Ben Levi that first tefillah (after plag) and then Kerias Shema (at Zman Shechivah) that works great. Once we see that he says we say Kerisa Shema in shul (after Shemoneh Esrei) this is still before Zman Shechivah

Yitzi Niasoff, Lakewood NJ USA

The Kollel replies:

Dear Yitzi,

Even according to R' Yehoshua Ben Levi there is Tefilas Arvis with Birchos Krias Shema, Krias Shema and Shmone Esrei. He just reverses the order to finish with Krias Shema. Then he adds that Krias Shema Al haMita is also important for its reason.(how else can be understood is two statements on 4b?)

Rashi says the "real " Krias Shmais at bedtime he must go with the general idea of R' Yehoshua Ben Levi that Krias Shema should be last after Shone Esrei and not like R' Yochanan who needs Krias Shma first.

All the Best, Reuven Weiner