1)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that someone who touches the thigh-bone of a corpse or of Hekdesh becomes Tamei. What is the minimum Shi'ur of the former?

(b)What does 'of Hekdesh' mean? What is the source of this Tum'ah?

1)

(a)Our Mishnah rules that someone who touches the thigh-bone of a corpse - which measures no less than the size of a barley, or of Hekdesh, becomes Tamei.

(b)'of Hekdesh' means - a bone of Pigul or Nosar, which are Metamei the hands mi'de'Rabbanan, as we learned in Pesachim.

2)

(a)If the two above-mentioned bones are Metamei, irrespective of whether they are closed or holed, what does the Tana say about the thigh-bones of a Neveilah or of a Sheretz?

(b)Why the difference?

(c)Then why do the bones need to be holed?

(d)What is the minimum Shi'ur of the hole?

(e)From where does the Tana learn that they are Metamei be'Masa as well?

2)

(a)The Tana rules that, whereas the two above-mentioned bones are Metamei, irrespective of whether they are closed or holed, the thigh-bones of a Neveilah or of a Sheretz - are only Metamei if they are holed ...

(b)... since the bones are not intrinsically Metamei ("be'Nivlasah", 've'Lo ba'Atzamos'), only in their capacity as Shomrim of the marrow that they contain ...

(c)... and the reason that they need to be holed is - because a Shomer is only Metamei if one is able to touch the Tum'ah that it is guarding.

(d)The minimum Shi'ur of the hole is - sufficient to allow a hair through (to touch the marrow).

(e)The Tana learns that they are Metamei be'Masa as well - from the Hekesh of "ha'Nosei" to "ha'Noge'a" (like Rebbi Akiva on the previous Amud).

3)

(a)The Reisha of our Mishnah declares the Kulyas ha'Meis Tamei Maga but not Tamei Ohel, because the Tana is speaking where it contains less than a k'Zayis of Basar. How about the marrow?

(b)Why would it otherwise be Metamei, even though it is totally covered by the bone?

(c)On what grounds do we suggest that the bone ought perhaps to be Metamei even if it contains neither a k'Zayis Basar on the outside, nor a k'Zayis of marrow inside?

(d)On what grounds does Rav Yehudah b'rei de'Rav Chiya reject this supposition?

(e)We just learned that the minimum Shi'ur for Tum'ah of the bone of a Meis is the size of a barley. What is the minimum Shi'ur for the Tum'ah of the limb of a Sheretz?

3)

(a)The Reisha of our Mishnah renders the Kulyas ha'Meis Tamei Maga but not Tamei Ohelm, because the Tana is speaking where it contains less than a k'Zayis of Basar - and by the same token, less than a k'Zayis of marrow.

(b)Otherwise it would be Metamei, even though it is totally covered by the bone - because of the principle Tum'ah Retzutzah Boka'as ve'Olah (When a Meis is in an Ohel that does not have a Tefach space between it and the roof (or between it and the walls), the Tum'ah simply rises up to the sky).

(c)We suggest that the bone ought perhaps to be Metamei even if it contains neither a k'Zayis Basar on the outside, nor a k'Zayis of marrow inside - on the assumption that a. marrow tends to return to the bone of a live animal, and b. it causes the Basar to re-grow too, thereby transforming the bone into a limb.

(d)Rav Yehudah b'rei de'Rav Chiya rejects this supposition however - by establishing that the marrow does not in fact, cause the Basar to re-grow.

(e)We just learned that the minimum Shi'ur for the Tum'ah of the bone of a Meis is the size of a barley. There is no minimum size for the Tum'ah of the limb of a Sheretz.

4)

(a)If the Tana is speaking where the bone of the Meis contains less than a k'Zayis of marrow, then how will we explain Kulyas ha'Mukdashin, Kulyas Neveilah and Kulyas ha'Sheretz?

(b)Why can we not answer that the bone itself combines to make up the Shi'ur k'Zayis?

(c)If, as we just explained, Kulyas ha'Meis comes to teach us that the marrow inside the bone does not cause the flesh to re-grow, what is the Tana coming to teach us in the case of Kulyas ...

1. ... ha'Mukdashin?

2. ... ha'Neveilah and Kulyas ha'Sheretz?

(d)How come that we do not already know the Chidush of Kulyas ha'Mukdashin from the Mishnah in Pesachim?

4)

(a)Even though the Tana is speaking where the bone of the Meis contains less than a k'Zayis of marrow, Kulyas ha'Mukdashin, Kulyas Neveilah and Kulyas ha'Sheretz must be speaking - where they contain at least a k'Zayis.

(b)We cannot answer that the bone itself combines to make up the Shi'ur k'Zayis - because we learned at the beginning of the Perek that the Shomer of Tum'ah Chamurah does not combine to make up the Shi'ur.

(c)As we just explained, Kulyas ha'Meis comes to teach us that the marrow inside the bone does not cause the flesh to re-grow. In the case of Kulyas ...

1. ... ha'Mukdashin, the Chidush is that - the bones of Kodshim that served Nosar render the hands Tamei (by becoming a basis for something that is Asur, even though they are closed), as Rav Mari bar Avuhah Amar Rebbi Yitzchak taught.

2. ... ha'Neveilah and Kulyas ha'Sheretz, the Chidush is that - even if the bone contains a k'Zayis of marrow, it is only Metamei when it is open, but not when it is closed (because they are not then considered a Shomer).

(d)We do not already know the Chidush of Kulyas ha'Mukdashin from the Mishnah in Pesachim - because the Tana there only mentions Pigul and Nosar themselves, but not the bones.

5)

(a)Abaye disagrees with Rav Yehudah b'rei de'Rav Chiya's explanation of Kulyas ha'Meis. He maintains that the marrow inside the bone does cause the Basar to re-grow. In that case, why is the bone not Metamei in any event (because it is considered an Eiver, like we suggested earlier)?

(b)What distinction does Rebbi Elazar, whom he quotes, draw between mutilating a strip of skin around the animal's girth, or doing so along its length?

(c)And what does Rebbi Elazar mean when he concludes 've'Simnayich "Dikla" '?

5)

(a)Abaye disagrees with Rav Yehudah b'rei de'Rav Chiya's explanation of Kulyas ha'Meis. Even though he maintains that the marrow inside the bone does cause the Basar to re-grow, the bone is not Metamei in any event (due to it being considered an Eiver) - since our Mishnah is speaking where they had previously mutilated the skin with a saw or a knife, in which case, the Basar would no longer have re-grown.

(b)Rebbi Elazar, whom he quotes, confines this mutilation to there where they did so around the animal's girth, leaving a strip of mutilated skin between the two sections of healthy skin. But if they did it along the length of the Basar, where the flesh can still heal along the length of the body on both sides of the strip, the flesh will still be able to re-grow, and the animal will be Metamei (even if there is no marrow and no flesh).

(c)And when Rebbi Elazar concludes 've'Simnayich "Dikla" ', he means that - this distinction can be easily remembered because it is similar to a date-palm, which will wither if a strip of bark is removed from around its trunk, but not if it is removed from its height (for the same reason).

6)

(a)Rebbi Yochanan goes even further than Abaye. According to him, the Tana is speaking where there is a k'Zayis of Basar or a k'Zayis of marrow inside the bone, which causes the flesh to re-grow. How does he then interpret ha'Noge'a with regard to Kulyas ha'Meis?

(b)What does he gain by explaining the Mishnah like this?

(c)What problem does this explanation create with the Seifa (with regard to Kulyas ha'Neveilah and Kulyas ha'Sheretz)?

(d)How does Rebbi Binyamin bar Gidal Amar Rebbi Yochanan therefore establish the Mishnah? What sort of marrow are we talking about?

6)

(a)Rebbi Yochanan goes even further than Abaye. According to him, the Tana is speaking where there is a k'Zayis of marrow inside the bone, which causes the flesh to re-grow. And when the Tana refers to ha'Noge'a, with regard to Kulyas ha'Meis he means (not really 'Noge'a', but) - Ma'ahil (that it forms an Ohel).

(b)By explaining the Mishnah like this - he avoids breaking it up into two different sections (in the way that we learned until now). Because according to Rebbi Yochanan, the entire Mishnah is now speaking where the bone contains a k'Zayis of marrow.

(c)The problem with the Seifa (with regard to Kulyas ha'Neveilah and Kulyas ha'Sheretz) will then be - why the Tana requires the bone to be open. Why is it not considered an Eiver anyway, due to the marrow inside?

(d)Rebbi Binyamin bar Gidal Amar Rebbi Yochanan therefore establishes the Mishnah - by marrow which has dried up, which no longer has the power to heal the Basar, but which is nevertheless considered Neveilah or Sheretz if the bone is holed. In the Reisha on the other hand, it is still considered Basar and therefore Metamei whether the bone is holed or not (as we explained).

7)

(a)What does the Mishnah in Ohalos say in a case where someone touches half a k'Zayis of a Meis and either forms an Ohel over another half-k'Zayis or the other half-k'Zayis forms an Ohel over him?

(b)Under what condition do the two half-k'Zeisim combine?

(c)How do we try to support Rebbi Yochanan from there?

(d)We think that 'touches' means Ma'ahil, based on another Mishnah there. What does the other Mishnah say about combining two half-Shi'urim of Tum'ah?

7)

(a)The Mishnah in Ohalos rules that someone who touches half a k'Zayis of a Meis and either forms an Ohel over another half-k'Zayis or the other half-k'Zayis forms an Ohel over him - is Tamei ...

(b)... provided that the two take place simultaneously.

(c)We try to support Rebbi Yochanan from there - inasmuch as we assume that touches means Ma'ahil ...

(d)... based on another Mishnah there, which rules that two half-Shi'urim of Tum'ah combine only if they belong to the same category of Tum'ah (Negi'ah with Negi'ah, or Ohel with Ohel).

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8)

(a)We counter this proof however, from the Seifa of the Mishnah. What does the Tana there rule in a case where someone touches half a k'Zayis of a Meis, whilst something else forms an Ohel over another half-k'Zayis of Meis and over him?

(b)What does this prove?

(c)So Rebbi Zeira establishes the Reisha where the half-k'Zayis over which he is Ma'ahil is lying in a space between two wooden cupboards that are less than a Tefach apart. What does this mean? How does it explain the Beraisa?

(d)What is the source of the Din of Tum'ah Retzutah ... ?

(e)In what way is the proof for Rebbi Yochanan now rejected?

8)

(a)We counter this proof however, from the Seifa of that Mishnah, which rules that if someone touches half a k'Zayis of a Meis, whilst something else forms an Ohel over another half-k'Zayis of Meis and over him, he remains Tahor ...

(b)... a proof that Noge'a means touches, because if it meant Ohel, there would be no reason for him not to be Tamei.

(c)So Rebbi Zeira establishes the Reisha where the half-k'Zayis over which he is Ma'ahil is lying in a space between two wooden cupboards that are less than a Tefach apart. Consequently, this is a case of Tum'ah Retzutzah (which we discussed on the previous Amud) which rises, and which is considered as if the space was filled with Tum'ah. Consequently - when he places his hand there, it is as if he actually touched the piece of Meis (even if his hand was much higher than the Tum'ah).

(d)The source of the Din of Tum'ah Retzutah ... is - Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai.

(e)It now transpires that - it is not Ohel which the Tana refers to as Noge'a (like Rebbi Yochanan explained), but Noge'a, which the Tana refers to as Ohel. In fact, the person in the Reisha is Tamei because the entire case is one of Noge'a, and not of Ohel, like Rebbi Yochanan thought.

9)

(a)What does Rebbi Yossi in a Beraisa say about a spoonful of rot (dust) of a Meis (M'lo Kaf Rekev ... ) that is found in a coffin?

(b)What is the source of this Halachah?

(c)What is the problem with saying Metamei be'Maga?

(d)So how do we interpret it?

9)

(a)Rebbi Yossi in a Beraisa rules that a spoonful of rot (dust) of a Meis (M'lo Kaf Rekev ... ) that is found in a coffin - is Metamei be'Maga, be'Masa and be'Ohel ...

(b)... Halachah le'Moshe mi'Sinai.

(c)The problem with saying Metamei be'Maga is - that the Tana has already listed be'Maga, so why repeat it?

(d)We therefore interpret it to mean - be'Ohel.

10)

(a)What is the problem with interpreting Maga as Ohel?

(b)Abaye therefore differentiates between below a Tefach (Maga) and above a Tefach (Ohel). What does Rava say? What does 'be'Hamshachah' mean?

(c)What do we prove from Rava's interpretation of Rebbi Yossi?

(d)Why can we not say this according to Abaye?

(e)Why are we forced to say that?

10)

(a)The problem with interpreting Maga as Ohel is - why the Tana uses two different words to describe the same concept.

(b)So Abaye differentiates between below a Tefach, which the Tana calls Maga and above a Tefach, which he calls Ohel. Rava, who maintains - that both of these fall under the heading of Maga, interprets Ohel with reference to Hamshachah, where the man's hand is not held directly above the piece of Meis, but to the side, and another object is Ma'ahil over both of them (see Tosfos ha'Rosh).

(c)We prove from Rava's interpretation of Rebbi Yossi that - according to Rebbi Yochanan, who interprets Noge'a in our Mishnah as Ohel, the author of the Mishnah is Rebbi Yossi.

(d)We cannot say this according to Abaye - according to whom only an Ohel below a Tefach is referred to as Maga.

(e)We are forced to say that - because otherwise Abaye could have instituted our Mishnah like Rebbi Yossi, like Rebbi Yochanan did, yet on the previous Amud, he declined to do so.

11)

(a)Rava proves from a Beraisa that Rebbi Yossi calls even above a Tefach, Maga. What does the Tana rule regarding ropes of a bed or lattice-work of a window are placed to cover a gap between two beams in a ceiling?

(b)And what does he say if it is tied in the air directly above the Meis?

(c)What distinction does Rava draw between touching the location of the hole and the location of the actual ropes or lattice-work?

(d)Why can this not be speaking about where it is tied within a Tefach of the Meis?

(e)What is the basis for the difference between the two rulings?

11)

(a)Rava proves that Rebbi Yossi calls even above a Tefach Maga, from a Beraisa, which rules that if the ropes of a bed and the lattice-work of a window are placed to cover a gap between two beams in a ceiling - they serve as a Chatzitzah between a Meis on the ground floor and the first floor.

(b)If it is tied in the air directly above the Meis, if he touches the location of the hole - he rules that it becomes Tamei, whereas if he touches the location of the actual ropes or lattice-work - he remains Tahor.

(c)Rava rules that someone who touches the location of the hole becomes Tamei, whereas if he touches the actual material (not above the hole), he remains Tahor.

(d)This cannot be speaking where the rope and the latticework are spread within a Tefach of the Meis - because if they were, they would be considered no different than his clothes, which transmit Tum'ah just like he (the Meis) himself.

(e)The basis for the difference between the two cases is - because regarding the Dinim of Mechitzah (of which they are part) less than a Tefach is not considered an opening, whereas since strictly speaking, the hole itself is not part of the Mechitzah, the Tum'ah can penetrate even a hole that is less than a Tefach.

12)

(a)What has Rava now proved from there?

(b)How does Abaye counter Rava's proof? Why might Rebbi Yossi nevertheless be speaking about ropes or a lattice-work that are lying within a Tefach of the Meis?

12)

(a)Rava has now proved - that Rebbi Yossi sometimes refers to Ohel as Maga.

(b)Abaye counters that - Rebbi Yossi is speaking within a Tefach of the Meis (which explains why he refers to it as Maga), and they cannot be compared to the clothes of the Meis, since one is not Mevatel these items to the Meis, like one is Mevatel his clothes.

13)

(a)What is the problem with Abaye establishing the previous case by ropes and lattice-work that are spread within a Tefach of the Meis?

(b)How does he therefore establish Rebbi Yossi?

(c)And he proves it from a Mishnah in Ohalos. What does the Tana Kama say there about the draw of a wooden cupboard that is a Tefach deep, but whose entrance point is less than a Tefach, assuming that ...

1. ... it contains a piece of Meis?

2. ... it contains a Tahor object, and there is a piece of Meis lying in the room?

13)

(a)The problem with Abaye establishing the previous case by ropes and lattice-work that is spread within a Tefach of the Meis is that - we ought then to apply the principle Tum'ah Temunah Boka'as ve'Olah (like we say by Tum'ah Retzutzah).

(b)He therefore concludes that - Rebbi Yossi does not hold of Tum'ah Temunah ... (see Tosfos DH 'ka'Savar Rebbi Yossi').

(c)And he proves it from a Mishnah in Ohalos, where the Tana Kama rules that if the draw of a wooden cupboard that is a Tefach deep, but whose entrance point is less than a Tefach, and that ...

1. ... contains a piece of Meis - whatever is in the room is Tamei.

2. ... contains a Tahor object, and a piece of Meis is lying in the room - the object in the drawer remains Tahor.

14)

(a)Seeing as the entrance of the drawer is less than a Tefach, why is the room Tamei, in the first case?

(b)Then why is the object in the drawer Tahor, in the second case?

(c)On what grounds then, does Rebbi Yossi rule that even in the first case, what is lying in the room is Tahor, too?

(d)What does the Tana Kama rule in the Seifa, where the cupboard is standing on the threshold of the room, with the opening facing outwards, assuming that the Tum'ah is ...

1. ... in the drawer?

2. ... in the room?

14)

(a)Even though the entrance of the drawer is less than a Tefach, the room is Tamei - because the piece of Meis is destined to enter the room on its way out.

(b)Yet in the reverse case, where the Tum'ah is in the room, whatever is lying in the draw, remains Tahor - because a. the drawer is not Pose'ach Tefach, and b. the piece of Meis is not destined to enter the drawer.

(c)Rebbi Yossi however, rules that even in the first case, what is lying in the room is also Tahor - because it is possible to cut the piece of Meis in two and take it out half at a time, or to burn it where it is.

(d)The Tana Kama rules in the Seifa, where the cupboard is standing on the threshold of the room facing outwards, that if the Tum'ah is ...

1. ... in the drawer - then whatever is in the room is Tahor (because the piece of Meis no longer needs to enter the room on its way out).

2. ... in the room - then whatever is in the drawer is Tahor too, for the same reason.

15)

(a)And we learned on this Beraisa 'Rebbi Yossi Metaher'. What is the problem with this statement?

(b)So we ascribe it to a second reason for the Tana Kama's ruling in the Reisha 'Tum'ah be'Sochah, ha'Bayis Tamei'. What is the second reason for the Tum'ah?

(c)How will that reason now affect the Seifa?

(d)What does Rebbi Yossi now say?

(e)And what does Abaye prove from his ruling?

15)

(a)And we learned on this Beraisa 'Rebbi Yossi Metaher' which is problematic - since in the Seifa, the Tana Kama too, says Tahor, whereas in the Reisha, Rebbi Yossi has already stated his opinion.

(b)So we ascribe Rebbi Yossi's statement to a second reason for the Tana Kama's ruling in the Reisha 'Tum'ah be'Sochah, ha'Bayis Tamei' - in a case where the drawer is less than a Tefach deep, on account of 'Tum'ah Temunah Retzutzah Boka'as ve'Olah'.

(c)And this reason will affect the Seifa - where the reason of Sof Tum'ah Latzeis does not apply.

(d)To which Rebbi Yossi now says - 'Tahor', because he does not hold of the principle of Tum'ah Temunah ... .

(e)Which is precisely what Abaye is trying to prove.

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