1)

(a)What did Rav Idi bar Avin ask Abaye in connection with Rav Nachman's ruling ('Beitzah be'Shishim ... ')?

(b)How did Abaye reconcile Rav Nachman with the popular saying?

(c)How will he then explain the Beraisa which forbids Kasher eggs that were cooked with Tamei eggs be'Nosen Ta'am?

(d)What problem do we have with this from the Seifa, which specifically forbids eggs that were cooked with an egg containing a chick?

1)

(a)Rav Idi bar Avin asked Abaye - how Rav Nachman will reconcile his ruling ('Beitzah be'Shishim ... ') with the popular saying that eggs, like water, do not give taste.

(b)Abaye reconciled Rav Nachman with the popular saying - by establishing the former by an egg containing a chick (see Tosfos DH 'be'Beitzas Efro'ach').

(c)And he explains the Beraisa which forbids Kasher eggs that were cooked with Tamei eggs be'Nosen Ta'am - in the same way.

(d)The problem with this from the Seifa, which specifically forbids eggs that were cooked with an egg containing a chick is that - it implies that the Reisha is speaking about a plain Tamei egg (without a chick inside).

2)

(a)We answer by explaining that the Seifa comes to explain the Reisha. How do we try to prove that?

(b)How do we refute the proof? Why might it be necessary for the Seifa to reveal that the Reisha is in fact, referring to a plain Tamei egg?

(c)How did Rav Ashi intend to assess Shishim when a k'Zayis of Cheilev fell into a basket of Basar?

(d)What objection did the Rabbanan raise to that?

2)

(a)We answer by explaining that the Seifa comes to explain the Reisha, and we try to prove that - by pointing out that if the Reisha was speaking about a plain Tamei egg, then why would the Tana find it necessary to add the Seifa (since we would automatically know it from a Kal va'Chomer from the Reisha [If a plain Tamei egg is Asur, how much more so one that contains a chick)).

(b)We refute the proof however, inasmuch as it might be necessary for the Seifa to reveal that the Reisha is in fact, referring to a plain Tamei egg - to preclude from the suggestion that only an egg with a chick inside forbids the other eggs with which it is cooked, but not a plain Tamei one.

(c)Rav Ashi intended to assess Shishim when a k'Zayis of Cheilev fell into a basket of Basar - by adding the Heter that became absorbed in the basket, to the Heter that remained, in order to complement the Shi'ur Shishim.

(d)The Rabbanan objected to that - on the grounds that just as the basket absorbed Heter, so too, did it absorb Isur, in which case, the two cancel each other out (see M'lo ha'Ro'im).

3)

(a)What did Mar bar Rav Ashi intend to rule when half a k'Zayis of Cheilev fell into a basket of Basar?

(b)What objection did Rav Ashi raise, based on the Din of Chazti Shi'ur?

(c)What would he have said had Chatzi Shi'ur been mi'de'Rabbanan?

3)

(a)When half a k'Zayis of Cheilev fell into a basket of Basar, Mar bar Rav Ashi intended - to permit the Basar bi'Sheloshim.

(b)Rav Ashi objected on the grounds that - Chatzi Shi'ur too, is Asur min ha'Torah (and one should certainly not deal lightly with d'Oraysos, even if they are not subject to Malkos).

(c)In fact however - he would not have agreed with him, even if Chatzi Shi'ur had been Asur only mi'de'Rabbanan, as he himself clearly stated.

4)

(a)What did Rav Sh'man bar Aba, citing ... a certain Zakein called Rebbi Ya'akov, quote the bei Nesi'a as saying, starting with 'Beitzah be'Shishim Asurah'?

(b)On what grounds did Rebbi Zeira admonish Rav Sh'man bar Aba, based on the same statement of the two Gedolei ha'Dor Rebbi Ya'akov bar Idi and Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeini? Why did he consider him presumptuous?

(c)Which great Posek were the two Gedolei ha'Dor quoting?

(d)Rebbi Chelbo Amar Rav Huna however, resolved the She'eilah of the two Gedolei ha'Dor. What did he conclude?

4)

(a)Rav Sh'man bar Aba citing ... a certain Zakein called Rebbi Ya'akov, quoted the bei Nesi'a as saying 'Beitzah be'Shishim Asurah - be'Shishim ve'Achas, Muteres'.

(b)Based on the same statement of the two Gedolei ha'Dor Rebbi Ya'akov bar Idi and Rebbi Shmuel bar Nachmeini - who left in doubt whether the sixty-one eggs included the Tamei egg or not, Rebbi Zeira admonished Rav Sh'man bar Aba for his presumptuousness in permitting the eggs if there are sixty-one, without leaving open the possibility that one requires sixty-two (including the Tamei egg).

(c)The great Posek the two Gedolei ha'Dor were quoting was - Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi.

(d)Rebbi Chelbo Amar Rav Huna however, resolved the quandary of the two Gedolei ha'Dor. He concluded that- sixty-two eggs are required, for the eggs to be permitted. Note: presumably the entire Sugya is speaking about an egg with a chick inside, and not just a Tamei egg, as we learned at the beginning of the Sugya.

5)

(a)When someone came before Rabban Gamliel, son of Rebbi, he cited his father who permitted forty-seven eggs that were cooked together with one Tamei one. So what did he himself rule?

(b)What parallel figures did Rebbi Shimon bar Rebbi give in a similar testimony?

(c)How else might we interpret the respective statements of Rabban Gamliel and Rebbi Shimon bar Rebbi? What else might they have said?

(d)When someone came before Rebbi Chiya, the latter exclaimed that there the Heter did not comprise Sheloshim, implying that if it did, it would be Bateil. How did Rebbi Chanina explain that, in light of the Shi'ur Shishim that is always required?

5)

(a)When someone came before Rabban Gamliel, son of Rebbi, he cited his father who permitted forty-seven eggs that were cooked together with one Tamei egg. Consequently, he figured, since one does not require Shishim - forty-five will also be permitted.

(b)Rebbi Shimon bar Rebbi, in a similar testimony - cited his father as permitting forty-five, and using the same logic as his brother, he permitted forty-three.

(c)Alternatively, what Rabban Gamliel and Rebbi Shimon bar Rebbi might have said was that - their father had not even permitted forty-seven and forty-five eggs (respectively), so how could they permit forty-five and forty three?

(d)When someone came before Rebbi Chiya, the latter exclaimed that there the Heter did not comprise Sheloshim. In light of the Shi'ur Shishim that is always required - Rebbi Chanina explained Guzma, meaning that all Rebbi Chiya meant was that there was not even Sheloshim against the Isur, let alone Shishim.

6)

(a)When Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi in the name of bar Kapara stated that all Isurin in the Torah require Shishim (see Tosfos DH 've'Iba'i l'hu'), Rebbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak countered with a statement by Rav Asi. What did Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi in the name of bar Kapara say?

(b)Are Shishim and Me'ah a Kula or a Chumra?

(c)What is Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi and bar Kapara's common source (as we will now see}?

(d)What happens to ...

1. ... the Zero'a Besheilah (the cooked foreleg) of the ram of the Shalmei Nazir?

2. ... the rest of the ram?

6)

(a)When Rebbi Chiya bar Aba Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi in the name of bar Kapara stated that all Isurin in the Torah require Shishim (see Tosfos DH 've'Iba'i l'hu'), Rebbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak countered with a statement by Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi in the name of bar Kapara - who required a hundred of Heter to be Mevateil the Isur.

(b)Shishim and Me'ah are actually - a Chumra, since they are required even where the Isur is not Nosen Ta'am or by Miyn be'Miyno, where one cannot identify the Ta'am (because when it is Nosen Ta'am, even Shishim will not permit the mixture to be eaten [see Tosfos DH 'Kol Isurin']).

(c)Their common source is - Zero'a Besheilah (the cooked right foreleg, as we will now see).

(d)The ...

1. ... Zero'a Besheilah (the cooked foreleg) of the Shalmei Nazir - is given to the Kohen, whereas ...

2. ... the rest of the ram - is eaten by the owner.

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7)

(a)The Tana Kama of the Beraisa interprets the word "Besheilah" as whole (see Tosfos DH 'Ein ... '). How does Rebbi Shimon interpret it?

(b)Assuming that both Tana'im rquire the Gid ha'Nasheh to be cooked together with the ram (like the simple explanation of the Pasuk), what is then the basis of their Machlokes?

(c)According to the second Lashon, both Tana'im agree that one detaches the Gid ha'Nasheh before cooking the Zero'a. What is then the basis of their Machlokes?

(d)What problem does cooking them together create?

7)

(a)The Tana Kama of the Beraisa interprets the word "Besheilah" as whole (see Tosfos DH 'Ein ... '). Rebbi Shimon interprets it to mean that - it is cooked together with the rest of the ram.

(b)Assuming that both Tana'im require the Gid ha'Nasheh to be cooked together with the ram (like the simple explanation of the Pasuk), the basis of their Machlokes is - whether one detaches the Zero'a from the body of the ram before cooking (the Tana Kama), or not (Rebbi Shimon).

(c)According to the second Lashon, both Tana'im agree that one removes the Gid ha'Nasheh before cooking the Zero'a. And they argue over whether - the Zero'a is cooked together with the rest of the ram (Rebbi Shimon) or independently, in a separate pot (the Rabbanan).

(d)The problem with cooking them together is that - the Zero'a ought to add taste to the rest of the ram, rendering it forbidden to the owner.

8)

(a)According to whom do Rebbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak (Shishim) and Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi Mishum bar Kapara (Me'ah) argue, in the ...

1. ... first Lashon?

2. ... second Lashon?

(b)If Rebbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak reckons the bones and the Basar, what does Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi hold?

(c)What creates the distinction between the two opinions?

8)

(a)Rebbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak (be'Shishim) and Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi Mishum bar Kapara (be'Me'ah) argue, in the ...

1. ... first Lashon - according to both Tana'im (since they both require the Zero'a to be cooked together with the rest of the ram).

2. ... second Lashon - according to Rebbi Shimon.

(b)Rebbi Shmuel bar Rav Yitzchak reckons the bones and the Basar, whereas Rav Asi Amar Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi - reckons only the Basar (since the bones do not exude taste anyway).

(c)The distinction between the two opinions is created by the fact that - the Zero'a Besheilah contains a higher proportion of bones (one sixtieth of the total animal) than of Basar (one hundredth) see Hagahos ha'Bach.

9)

(a)We learned in a Beraisa (in connection with the Zero'a Besheilah) Zehu Heter ha'Ba mi'Chelal Isur. What Kashya does this pose on the current Sugya?

(b)Abaye answers that the Beraisa goes according to Rebbi Yehudah. Which Chumra of Rebbi Yehudah is the Tana then referring to?

(c)How does Rebbi Yehudah learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos (in connection with the blood of the bull and the goat of Yom Kipur) "Velakach mi'Dam ha'Par u'mi'Dam ha'Sa'ir" that Miyn be'Miyno is not Bateil?

9)

(a)We learned in a Beraisa (in connection with the Zero'a Besheilah) Zehu Heter ha'Ba mi'Chelal Isur - which implies that Zero'a Besheilah is an exception, and that all other similar cases are Asur (a Kashya on the Amora'im who permit Bitul be'Shishim or be'Me'ah).

(b)Abaye answers that - the Beraisa comes to forbid Miyn be'Miyno, according to Rebbi Yehudah, whereas the D'rashah of Bitul be'Shishim or be'Me'ah, is referring to Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno.

(c)Rebbi Yehudah learns from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos (in connection with the blood of the bull and the goat of Yom Kipur) "Velakach mi'Dam ha'Par u'mi'Dam ha'Sa'ir" that Miyn be'Miyno Lo Bateil - from the fact that the Pasuk still refers to Dam ha'Sa'ir, despite the fact that the blood of the Par is far in excess of it.

10)

(a)Why does Rebbi Yehudah prefer to learn from the Par ve'Sa'ir shel Yom Kipur that Miyn be'Miyno is not Bateil than from Zero'a Besheilah, that it is?

(b)Then why does he learn Bitul be'Shishim or be'Me'ah of Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno from Gid ha'Nasheh?

(c)According to Rava, we need the Pasuk to permit Shishim or Me'ah regarding Ta'am ke'Ikar (where the actual Isur has been removed). When is Ta'am ke'Ikar then Asur and when is it permitted?

(d)What will Rava do with the D'rashah "Mishras" (in Nazir, in connection with Nazir), from which the Sugya in Pesachim learns Ta'am ke'Ikar?

10)

(a)Rebbi Yehudah prefers to learn from the blood of the Par ve'Sa'ir shel Yom Kipur that Miyn be'Miyno is not Bateil than from Zero'a Besheilah that it is - because Zero'a Besheilah is a Chidush, inasmuch as one is permitted to actually be Mevateil an Isur by cooking the Zero'a together with the ram.

(b)And the reason that he nevertheless learns Bitul be'Shishim or be'Me'ah of Miyn be'she'Eino Miyno from Gid ha'Nasheh is - because, seeing as min ha'Torah the Isur would otherwise be Bateil be'Rov, declaring it Bateil be'Shishim or be'Me'ah ... is actually a Chumra (which we can learn even from a Chidush).

(c)According to Rava, we need the Pasuk to permit Shishim or Me'ah regarding Ta'am ke'Ikar (where the actual Isur has been removed) - by Chulin (but which remains Asur by Kodshim).

(d)According to Rava, the D'rashah "Mishras" (in Nazir, in connection with Nazir), from which the Sugya in Pesachim learns 'Ta'am ke'Ikar' - is only an Asmachta, in support of the Rabbanan, who forbade it.

11)

(a)What do we learn from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with a Chatas) "Kol asher Yiga bi'Vesarah Yikdash"?

(b)What are the ramifications of this ruling, assuming that a Shelamim touched a ...

1. ... a Kasher Chatas (and one of them was hot)?

2. ... a Pasul Chatas?

(c)We prefer to learn from Chatas than from Zero'a Besheilah, because the latter is a Chidush, as we explained. In that case, how can we learn even the Din of Shishim and Me'ah by Chulin from the latter?

11)

(a)We learn from the Pasuk in Tzav (in connection with a Chatas) "Kol Asher Yiga bi'Vesarah Yikdash" that - Ta'am ke'Ikar is Asur by Kodshim.

(b)Consequently, assuming that a Shelamim touched a ...

1. ... a Kasher Chatas (and one of them was hot) - it has to be eaten on the same day, in the Azarah and by male Kohanim.

2. ... a Pasul Chatas - then it must be burned.

(c)We prefer to learn from a Chatas than from Zero'a Besheilah, because the latter is a Chidush, as we explained earlier. Nevertheless, we learn the Din of Shishim and Me'ah by Chulin from the latter - because it is a Chumra (as we explained there).

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