1)

(a)Rav Yehudah considers a Coy a unique species of animal. Why does he not consider it the child of a deer and a goat (like Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabbanan)?

(b)According to Rav Yehudah, is a Coy a Beheimah or a Chayah?

(c)How does Rav Nachman (who agrees with Rav Yehudah's basic reasoning) define a Coy?

(d)We cite a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama supports Rav Nachman, and Rebbi Yossi, Rav Yehudah, whereas Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel defines it as a Beheimah. What does he add that Beis Dushai (or Rashai) used to do with the Coy?

1)

(a)Rav Yehudah considers a Coy a unique species of animal. He does not consider it the child of a deer and a goat (like Rebbi Eliezer and the Rabbanan) - because he maintains that a Beheimah and a Chayah cannot interbreed.

(b)According to Rav Yehudah - the Chachamim could not decide whether a Coy is a Beheimah or a Chayah.

(c)Rav Nachman (who agrees with Rav Yehudah's basic reasoning) defines a Coy as Ayil ha'Bar (a ram that lives in the forest.

(d)We cite a Beraisa, where the Tana Kama supports Rav Nachman, and Rebbi Yossi, Rav Yehudah, whereas Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel defines it as a Beheimah, adding - that Beis Dushai (or Rashai) used to raise herds of them.

2)

(a)What does Rebbi Zeira Amar ... Rav Hamnuna say about Izi de'Bali? What are Izi de'Bali?

(b)He does not consider them Chayos on the basis of a statement by Rebbi Yitzchak. What did Rebbi Yitzchak say in connection with the ten animals that the Torah lists in Re'ei? How many Beheimos and how many Chayos does the Torah list there?

(c)What does Rebbi Zeira prove from there?

2)

(a)Rebbi Zeira Amar ... Rav Hamnuna ruled - that Izi de'Bali (forest goats) may be brought on the Mizbe'ach.

(b)He does not consider them Chayos based on a statement by Rebbi Yitzchak - who said that the Torah lists ten animals in Re'ei, three Beheimos and seven Chayos.

(c)Rebbi Zeira concludes that, since the Torah does not include Izi de'Ba'ali among the Chayos - it must be a Beheimah.

3)

(a)We ask why "Ayal u'Tzvi ... ve'Ako ... U'se'o va'Zamer" should not be a P'rat and "Kol Beheimah" a '\K'lal'. So what if they were?

(b)On what basis do we refute this Kashya?

(c)Rav Acha b'rei de'Rav Ika asked that perhaps the Izi de'Bali are a species of Ako. What did Rav Acha b'rei de'Rava (or b'rei de'Rav Ivya) ask Rav Ashi?

(d)Judging by what Rav Chanan told Rav Ashi, citing a ruling of Ameimar, the latter seems to consider Izi de'Ba'ali a Chayah. What ruling did Ameimar ytherefore issue regarding it?

3)

(a)We ask why "Ayal u'Tzvi ... ve'Ako ... U'se'o va'Zamer" should not be a P'rat and "Kol Beheimah" a K'lal - in which case we would include many other species (among them, perhaps, the Izi de'Ba'ali).

(b)We refute this Kashya however, on the grounds that - if it was, then why would the Torah need to insert so many animals in the P'rat.

(c)Rav Acha b'rei de'Rav Ika asked that perhaps the Izi de'Ba'ali are a species of Ako, and Rav Acha b'rei de'Rava (or b'rei de'Rav Ivya) asked Rav Ashi that - perhaps it belongs to the species of Se'o or Zamer.

(d)Judging by what Rav Chanan told Rav Ashi, citing a ruling of Ameimar, the latter seems to consider Izi de'Ba'ali a Chayah. Ameimar - permitted its Cheilev.

4)

(a)In response to a She'eilah from Aba b'rei de'Rav Menimin bar Chiya, Rav Huna bar Chiya cited a Beraisa, in connection with the Shor ha'Bar. What do the Rabbanan there prove from the fact that Unklus translates "Se'o" as 'Turbala' (a forest ox)?

(b)What does Rebbi Yossi say? Why does he disagree with the Tana Kama?

(c)What does Rav Huna bar Chiya now extrapolate from there?

(d)Rav Acha b'rei de'Rav Ika asked that perhaps it is a species of Ako. What did Ravina ask Rav Ashi?

(e)And what did Rav Chanan testify to Rav Ashi that Ameimar did?

4)

(a)In response to a She'eilah from Aba b'rei de'Rav Menimin bar Chiya, Rav Huna bar Chiya cited a Beraisa, in connection with the Shor ha'Bar. The Rabbanan there prove from the fact that Unklus translates "Se'o" as 'Turbala' (the acronym of 'Tor Bala' [a forest ox]) - that it must be a Beheimah.

(b)Rebbi Yossi disagrees with the Tana Kama. He maintains - that it must be a Chayah, since the Pasuk mentions it together with the Chayos (Davar ha'Lamed me'Inyano).

(c)Rav Huna bar Chiya now extrapolates from there that - since the Tana Kama and Rebbi Yossi only argue over a Shor ha'Bar, and not over Izi de'Bala, they evidently agree that the latter is a species of goat.

(d)Rav Acha b'rei de'Rav Ika asked that perhaps it is a species of Ako; Ravina asked Rav Ashi whether it was not a species of Se'o or Zamer.

(e)Rav Chanan testified to Rav Ashi that - Ameimar permitted their Cheilev.

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5)

(a)Rebbi Oshaya points out that our entire Mishnah does not go like Rebbi Shimon. What does Rebbi Shimon say later in the Perek)?

(b)What are the ramifications of this ruling regarding Oso v'es B'no?

5)

(a)Rebbi Oshaya points out that our entire Mishnah does not go like Rebbi Shimon, who rules in a Mishnah later in the Perek that - Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah Lo Sh'mah Shechitah (if a Shechitah does not permit the animal to be eaten, it is not considered a Shechitah).

(b)Consequently - if the Shechitah of the first animal is Pasul, then one is permitted to Shecht the second one on the same day.

6)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that Kodshim ba'Chutz, ha'Rishon Chayav Kareis, u'Sheneihem Pesulim, u'Sheneihem Sofgim es ha'Arba'im. What will Rebbi Shimon say in that case?

(b)From where do we learn that Shechutei Chutz is a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah

(c)In that case, why is one ever Chayav for Shechutei Chutz?

6)

(a)We learned in our Mishnah that Kodshim ba'Chutz, ha'Rishon Chayav Kareis, u'Sheneihem Pesulim, u'Sheneihem Sofgim es ha'Arba'im. According to Rebbi Shimon - the first animal is a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah, therefore he ought to be Chayav Kareis (and not just Malkos) for the second one.

(b)We learn that Shechutei Chutz is a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah - from the Pasuk in Mikeitz (in connection with Yosef and his brothers) "u'Tevo'ach Tevach ve'Hachein" (which implies that a Shechitah must prepare the animal for eating).

(c)Nevertheless, one is Chayav for Shechutei Chutz - because the Torah says so (It is a Gezeiras ha'Kasuv).

7)

(a)'Chulin bi'Fenim, Sheneihem Pesulim, ve'ha'Sheini Sofeg es ha'Arba'im'. Why will Rebbi Shimon object to that? What ought the second one to receive?

(b)'Kodshim bi'Fenim, ha'Rishon Kasher u'Patur, ve'ha'Sheini Sofeg es ha'Arba'im u'Pasul'. What problem will Rebbi Shimon have with this? What makes every Shechitas Kodshim a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah'?

(c)Bearing in mind that all this is obvious, what is Rebbi Oshaya coming to teach us? Which of the three cases would we have otherwise thought that Rebbi Shimon concedes?

7)

(a)'Chulin bi'Fenim, Sheneihem Pesulim, ve'ha'Sheini Sofeg es ha'Arba'im'. Rebbi Shimon will object to that - because seeing as the first Shechitah was a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah, the second one is no longer subject to Oso v'es B'no, and he ought to be Patur for Shechting it (even though it is Pasul because of Chulin she'Nishchatu ba'Azarah).

(b)'Kodshim bi'Fenim, ha'Rishon Kasher u'Patur, ve'ha'Sheini Sofeg es ha'Arba'im u'Pasul'. The problem Rebbi Shimon has with this is that - according to him, every Shechitas Kodshim is a Shechitah she'Einah Re'uyah', since it is the Zerikas Dam that permits the Basar to be eaten, not the Shechitah; in which case, not only should the second Shochet not receive Malkos, but the Korban ought to be Kasher.

(c)All this is obvious, and what Rebbi Oshaya is coming to teach us is that - Rebbi Shimon will even argue with the ruling in the latter case. We might otherwise have thought that, seeing as the Shechitah is vital for the Hechsher of the Korban (because if the Kohen were to sprinkle the blood of the Korban after the animal was killed by Nechirah, it would be Pasul), he will consider it a Shechitah Re'uyah.

8)

(a)In the case of Kodshim bi'Fenim, the Tana sentences the second Shochet to Malkos because of Oso v'es B'no. What La'av are we referring to, when, quoting a Beraisa, we ask that he ought to be Chayav a second set of Malkos?

(b)On what grounds do we query the answer that the Tana is only concerned with the La'av of Oso v'es B'no?

(c)How do we answer this Kashya? If the Tana mentions the Malkos of Shechutei Chutz regarding the first Shochet in the case of Kodshim ba'Chutz, why does he decline to mention the Malkos of "u'le'Neder Lo Yeratzeh" regarding the second Shochet in the case of Kodshim bi'Fenim?

8)

(a)In the case of Kodshim bi'Fenim, the Tana sentences the second Shochet to Malkos because of Oso v'es B'no. When, quoting a Beraisa, we ask that he ought to be Chayav a second set of Malkos, we are referring to the La'av of "ve'Shor va'Seh Saru'a ve'Kalut ... u'le'Neder Lo Yeratzeh" (which presents an extra La'av for all Pesulin of Shor va'Seh).

(b)We query the answer that the Tana is only concerned with the La'av of Oso v'es B'no - on the grounds that he does mention Malkos for Shechutei Chutz (regarding the first Shochet in the case of Kodshim ba'Chutz).

(c)We answer that the Tana mentions the Malkos of Shechutei Chutz regarding the first Shochet in the case of Kodshim ba'Chutz - only because he is not Chayav for Oso v'es B'no; whereas regarding the second Shochet in the case of Kodshim bi'Fenim, who is, he declines to mention the Malkos of "u'le'Neder Lo Yeratzeh".

9)

(a)Rebbi Zeira answers that, based on the Pasuk "mi'Yom ha'Shemini va'Hal'ah Yeratzeh ... , "the La'av of "Lo Yeratzeh" is different. In what way is it different?

(b)How do we know that this is a case of La'av ha'Nitak la'Asei, and not a La'av she'Kadmo Asei (like that of "Lo Sikach ha'Eim al ha'Banim" ... "Shale'ach Teshalach es ha'Eim ... ")?

9)

(a)Rebbi Zeira answers that the La'av of "Lo Yeratzeh" is different - because, based on the Pasuk "mi'Yom ha'Shemini va'Hal'ah Yeratzeh ... ", it is a La'av ha'Nitak la'Asei (for which there is no Malkos [see also Tosfos DH 'Hanach li'Mechusar Z'man']).

(b)It is a La'av ha'Nitak la'Asei, and not a 'La'av she'Kadmo Asei (like that of "Lo Sikach ha'Eim al ha'Banim" ... "Shale'ach Teshalach es ha'Eim ... ") - because the La'av clearly applies to the first seven days, whereas the Asei can only apply to the eighth (unlike the Asei of "Shale'ach Teshalach", which can apply equally to before "Lo Sikach" as to after it).

10)

(a)What does Rebbi Apturiki extrapolate from the words ...

1. ... "Shiv'as Yamim" (in the Pasuk in Emor "Vehayah Shiv'as Yamim Tachas Imo")?

2. ... "ba'Yom ha'Shemini (in the Pasuk in Mishpatim "ba'Yom ha'Shemini Titno Li"?

(b)How do we reconcile the apparent contradiction?

(c)What Kashya does this pose on the previous D'rashah?

(d)How do we answer it?

10)

(a)Rebbi Apturiki extrapolates from the words ...

1. ... "Shiv'as Yamim" (in the Pasuk in Emor "Vehayah Shiv'as Yamim Tachas Imo") that - the La'av of Mechusar Z'man becomes permitted already on the eighth night.

2. ... "ba'Yom ha'Shemini (in the Pasuk in Mishpatim "ba'Yom ha'Shemini Titno Li" that - it is only permitted on the day of the eighth, and not in the night.

(b)We reconcile the apparent contradiction - by applying the Heter of the first Pasuk to the Hekdesh (the declaration), and the Isur of the second, to the actual bringing of the Korban.

(c)The Kashya this poses on the previous D'rashah is - how we can learn two different D'rashos from the same Pasuk?

(d)And we answer - by citing a second Pasuk (in Mishpatim) "Kein Ta'aseh le'Shorcha le'Tzonecha ... ba'Yom ha'Shemini Titno Li" (leaving us with an independent Pasuk for each Asei).

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