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7)
(a) What does the Tana Kama say about a case where someone sacrificed ba'Chutz a k'Zayis of Kometz, Levonah, Ketores, Minchas Kohanim, Minchas Kohen Mashi'ach or Minchas Nesachim?
(b) How does he interpret "La'asos Oso" (that we discussed earlier)?
(c) What does Rebbi Elazar say?
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8)
(a) Why does Rebbi Elazar not argue with the Rabbanan in the previous Mishnah, where they also give the Shi'ur of Ha'ala'as Chutz of an Olah as a k'Zayis?
(b) How does Rebbi Elazar Darshen "Oso" there where the P'sul o Chesaron does not apply?
(c) In which case will ...
1. ... Rebbi Elazar concede that one is Chayav for burning a k'Zayis ba'Chutz (even if it is the last k'Zayis)?
2. ... the Rabbanan concede that one is not Chayav for burning a k'Zayis ba'Chutz?
(d) If the last ruling extends to the Levonah as well, how will we explain it?
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9)
(a) What does the Mishnah say about someone who sacrifices ba'Chutz Kodshim together with their Eimurim?
(b) The Tana of the Beraisa obligates someone who burns a k'Zayis of Ketores ba'Chutz. What is then the problem with his next statement, exempting someone who burns half a P'ras inside? Whom do we think the Tana is referring to?
(c) What did Rebbi Zeira ... Amar Rav reply?
(d) What at this juncture, is the significance of half a P'ras?
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10)
(a) What problem does Rebbi Zeira have with Rav, who said that Rebbi Elazar agrees with the Beraisa, the way we just explained it?
(b) How does Rabah reconcile Rav with our Mishnah? What distinction does he draw between the Ketores in the Beraisa and the Ketores in our Mishnah?
(c) If the daily Ketores has no Shi'ur, why ...
1. ... does the Tana mention half a P'ras?
2. ... does one then need a k'Zayis?
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11)
(a) How does Rabah explain the Machlokes between Rebbi Elazar and the Rabbanan regarding the Shi'ur Ketores on Yom Kipur?
(b) Abaye queries this however, based on the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos, where the Torah writes "Chukah"? Why is that a problem?
(c) So he concludes that there is no Machlokes with regard to the Haktarah di'Penim. What in fact, will both Tana'im hold there?
(d) And what does he mean when he establishes the Machlokes with regard to whether we learn P'nim from Chutz or not? What do the Rabbanan, who learn P'nim from Chutz, hold?
(e) And what does Rebbi Elazar then say?
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12)
(a) What does the Beraisa say about someone who sacrifices less than ...
1. ... a k'Zayis of Kometz or Eimurim ba'Chutz?
2. ... three Login of wine or water (but more than a k'Zayis) ba'Chutz?
(b) What do these two cases have in common?
(c) What does Rava extrapolate from there? Why does it pose a Kashya on Abaye's interpretation of Rav?
(d) How does Rava know that the author of the Beraisa is the Chachamim (and not Rebbi Elazar)?
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13)
(a) Rava therefore establishes the entire Sugya by the Ketores of the Heichal, which, both opinions agree, has a Shi'ur. What is the Shi'ur?
(b) Does Haktarah have a Shi'ur, according to him?
(c) Then how does he establish our Mishnah, in order to accommodate the opinion of Rebbi Elazar?
(d) What is then the basis of the Machlokes?
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