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4)
(a) Rebbi Yishmael thought that it might be permitted to bring Ma'aser Sheini to Yerushalayim nowadays, and eat it there. On what grounds would it be necessary to separate Ma'aser nowadays after the Churban Beis-ha'Mikdash?
(b) What does he learn from B'chor (with a 'Binyan Av')?
(c) On what grounds does he refute this? Why can one not learn Ma'aser Sheini from B'chor?
(d) So he tries to learn it from Bikurim. What akes Bikurim better than B'chor is this regard?
(e) What Pircha does he ask on this Limud? Why can one not learn Ma'aser from them?
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5)
(a) So what does Rebbi Yishmael learn from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Va'haveisem Shamah ... ve'es Ma'asroseichem ... u'Vechoros Bekarchem ... "?
(b) Why did Rebbi Yishmael not even attempt to learn Ma'aser from a 'Mah ha'Tzad' from B'chor and Bikurim?
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6)
(a) What problem do we have with Rebbi Yishmael's Limud of B'chor to Ma'aser, assuming that he holds 'Kedushah Rishonah Kidshah le'Sha'atah ...
1. ... ve'Kidshah le'Asid Lavo'? What sort of Kedushah are we referring to?
2. ... ve'Lo Kidshah le'Asid Lavo'?
(b) In the latter case, how would we justify bringing a B'chor after the Churban? How would it be possible?
(c) If on the other hand, Rebbi Yishmael were to hold 'Lo Kidshah le'Asid Lavo', why might one be able to eat either Ma'aser or B'chor even in Yerushalayim?
(d) What exactly is then the She'eilah?
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7)
(a) Ravina adopts the latter side of the She'eilah. What does Rebbi Yishmael then learn from the Pasuk in Korach "ve'es Damam Tizrok ... u'Vesaram Yih'yeh lach"?
(b) What problem do we then have with learning Basar from Dam and Ma'aser from B'chor?
(c) How do we refute the answer that Ma'aser Dagan is considered Chulin?
(d) So how do we ultimately answer the Kashya?
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8)
(a) When Ravin arrived in Eretz Yisrael and told Rebbi Yirmiyah Abaye's Chidush invalidating Kodshim Kalim when the Mizbe'ach becomes chipped and the proof from Rebbi Yossi's statement, what did he comment?
(b) The Beraisa he cites discusses the moving of the camp in the desert. What does the Tana say about ...
1. ... Kodshei Kodshim?
2. ... Zavin and Metzora'im?
(c) How do we know that the traveling Ohel Mo'ed does not lose its status?
(d) Then why are the Kodshei Kodshim Pasul?
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9)
(a) A second Beraisa adds that Kodshim can be eaten in two places. Which two places?
(b) How do the two Beraisos appear to clash?
(c) How does Rebbi Yirmiyah reconcile the Beraisos? What does he attempt to prove from here?
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