1)

(a)The Mishnah in Me'ilah discusses Kodshim Kalim which are taken out of the Azarah before the Zerikah. Rebbi Eliezer says 'Ein Mo'alin bahen, ve'Ein Chayavin aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei'. What does Rebbi Akiva say?

(b)How do we initially correlate Ravina bar Shilo in our Sugya ('Emurei Kodshim ... Pesulin') with the Mishnah in Me'ilah?

(c)On what grounds does Rav Papa reject this explanation? How does he establish the Beraisa?

(d)According to Rav Papa ...

1. ... what is the basis of the Machlokes Tana'im?

2. ... like whom will Ravina bar Shilo hold?

1)

(a)The Mishnah in Me'ilah discusses Kodshim Kalim which are taken out of the Azarah before the Zerikah. Rebbi Eliezer rules 'Ein Mo'alin bahen, ve'Ein Chayavin aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei'; Rebbi Akiva rules 'Mo'alin bahen, ve'Chayavin aleihen Mishum Pigul, Nosar ve'Tamei'.

(b)Initially, we establish Ravina bar Shilo ('Emurei Kodshim ... Pesulin') - like Rebbi Akiva.

(c)Rav Papa rejects this explanation however - by establishing the Beraisa where the Kodshim are still outside whilst the Zerikah is being performed.

(d)According to Rav Papa ...

1. ... the basis of the Machlokes Tana'im is - whether 'Zerikah Mo'eles le'Yotzei' (Rebbi Akiva ) or not (Rebbi Eliezer).

2. ... Ravina bar Shilo will hold - like neither Tana (since both hold that if the Korban is returned, it is Kasher).

2)

(a)What did Rav Papa say with regard to the same Machlokes regarding the Sh'tei ha'Lechem that were taken out of the Azarah? In which case do they argue?

(b)What will they both hold in a case where the Sh'tei ha'Lechem are still outside whilst the Zerikah is being performed?

(c)How do we explain the discrepancy? Why does even Rebbi Akiva agree that 'Ein Zerikah Mo'eles le'Yotzei', in the case of the Sh'tei ha'Lechem?

(d)We learned in our Mishnah that 'Ofos Kodmos li'Menachos' because they are Miynei Damim, and that 'Minchas Chotei Kodem le'Minchas Nedavah' because it atones for a sin. Why might we have thought that ...

1. ... Menachos should take precedence over birds of Kodshim?

2. ... a Minchas Nedavah should take precedence over a Minchas Chotei?

2)

(a)With regard to the same Machlokes regarding the Sh'tei ha'Lechem that were taken out of the Azarah, Rav Papa - established the Machlokes where they were returned to the Azarah.

(b)Even Rebbi Akiva will agree that 'Ein Zerikah Mo'eles le'Yotzei' in a case where the Sh'tei ha'Lechem are still outside whilst the Zerikah is being performed ...

(c)... because unlike the Emurin, which are an intrinsic part of the Korban, the Sh'tei ha'Lechem are not.

(d)We learned in our Mishnah that 'Ofos Kodmos li'Menachos' because they are Miynei Damim, and that 'Minchas Chotei Kodem le'Minchas Nedavah' because it atones for a sin. We might have thought that ...

1. ... Menachos should take precedence over birds of Kodshim - because we find Minchos Tzibur (the Omer and the Sh'tei ha'Lechem), but not Korb'nos Of shel Tzibur.

2. ... a Minchas Nedavah should take precedence over a Minchas Chotei - because (unlike a Minchas Chotei) it requires oil and Levonah.

3)

(a)We ask which takes precedence, a Minchas Sotah or a Minchas Nedavah. What are the criteria involved?

(b)On what grounds do we ...

1. ... initially extrapolate from our Mishnah 'Minchas Chotei Kodemes le'Minchas Nedavah', 'Ha Minchas Sotah, Lo'?

2. ... refute that? What reason does the Tana give for a Minchas Chotei taking precedence over a Minchas Nedavah?

(c)How do we try to resolve the She'eilah from the Beraisa 'Zu Kodemes le'Zu, she'Zu Ba'ah min ha'Chitin, ve'Zu Ba'ah min ha'Se'orin'? What do we think this is referring to?

3)

(a)We ask which takes precedence, a Minchas Sotah - because it comes to clarify sin, or a Minchas Nedavah - because it requires oil and frankincense (which a Minchas Sotah does not).

(b)We ...

1. ... initially extrapolate from our Mishnah 'Minchas Chotei Kodemes le'Minchas Nedavah', 'Ha Minchas Sotah, Lo' - because a Minchas Chotei atones, which a Minchas Sotah does not

2. ... refute that - because the Tana gives the reason for the precedence of the Minchas Chotei in that it comes (not, to atone, but) for a sin, which a Minchas Sotah does, too.

(c)We try to resolve the She'eilah from the Beraisa 'Zu Kodemes le'Zu, she'Zu Ba'ah min ha'Chitin, ve'Zu Ba'ah min ha'Se'orin' - assuming that the Tana is referring to our case (a Minchas Nedavah and a Minchas Sotah respectively).

4)

(a)On what grounds do we initially object to the suggestion that the Tana is referring to the precedence of a Minchas Chotei over a Minchas Sotah? What other reason ought the Tana to have given?

(b)How do we counter this argument?

(c)How do we resolve both problems with one stroke?

4)

(a)Initially, we object to the suggestion that the Tana is referring to the precedence of a Minchas Chotei over a Minchas Sotah - because then, the reason the Tana ought to have given is that the former atones, whereas the latter does not

(b)We counter with the argument however - inasmuch as in that case, even if the Tana refers to a Minchas Nedavah and a Minchas Sotah - he ought to have stated the reason as the fact that the former requires oil and Levonah, whereas the latter does not.

(c)We resolve both problems with one stroke - by applying the principle 'Chad mi'T'rei Ta'ami Nakat' (the Tana mentions one of two reasons).

5)

(a)The Torah writes in Vayikra (in connection with the Korban for 'Shemi'as Kol') "Ve'hikriv es asher la'Chatas Rishonah". What is the problem with this Pasuk?

(b)Then why does the Torah write "Rishonah"?

(c)Does this apply even to ...

1. ... a Chatas Beheimah and an Olas Beheimah?

2. ... a Chatas ha'Of and an Olas Beheimah?

(d)To whom does this latter case apply? Who is in fact, obligated to bring both?

5)

(a)The problem with the Pasuk in Vayikra (in connection with the Korban for 'Shemi'as Kol') "Ve'hikriv es asher la'Chatas Rishonah" is - that having already written "ve'es ha'Sheini Ya'aseh Olah", why is it necessary to repeat the fact that the Chatas comes first?

(b)The Torah in fact, writes "Rishonah" - to teach us a 'Binyan-Av' (that a Chatas always comes before an Olah, as we shall now see).

(c)This also applies to ...

1. ... a Chatas Beheimah and an Olas Beheimah, and even to ...

2. ... a Chatas ha'Of and an Olas Beheimah.

(d)This latter case applies - to a wealthy Yoledes, who brings both.

6)

(a)What do we now learn from ...

1. ... "ve'es ha'Sheini Ya'aseh Olah"?

2. ... "u'Par Sheini ben Bakar Tikach le'Chatas" (Rebbi's D'rashah [see beginning of previous Amud])?

3. ... "Ve'hikriv es asher la'Chatas Rishonah"?

(b)We query what we just learned from a Beraisa. What does Rebbi Eliezer mean when he says ...

1. ... (with regard to the Korban Oleh ve'Yoreid of Tum'as Mikdash) 'Kol Makom she'Nischalfah Chatas, Chatas Kodemes'?

2. ... 've'Ka'an she'Nischalfah Olah, Olah Kodemes'. What does this refer to?

3. ... 'Kol Makom she'Shenayim Ba'in Tachas Echad, Chatas Kodemes'? What case is he referring to?

(c)What problem does this create with what we just learned?

(d)How does Rava reconcile the two? How do we explain Rebbi Eliezer?

6)

(a)We now learn from ...

1. ... "ve'es ha'Sheini Ya'aseh Olah" - that a Chatas ha'Of takes precedence over an Olas ha'Of.

2. ... "u'Par Sheini ben Bakar Tikach le'Chatas" (see beginning of previous Amud) - that a Chatas Beheimah takes precedence over an Olas Beheimah.

3. ... "Ve'hikriv es asher la'Chatas Rishonah" - that a Chatas ha'Of even takes precedence over an Olas Beheimah.

(b)We query what we just learned from Rebbi Eliezer in a Beraisa, who says ...

1. ... (with regard to the Korban Oleh ve'Yoreid of Tum'as Mikdash) 'Kol Makom she'Nischalfah Chatas, Chatas Kodemes', he means - that wherever a Chatas ha'Of replaces a Chatas Beheimah (such as the current case, where the owner cannot afford a Beheimah), the Chatas comes first.

2. ... 've'Ka'an she'Nischalfah Olah, Olah Kodemes' - he is referring to a poor Yoledes, where the birds replace an Olah, and where the Olah bird therefore takes precedence over the Chatas.

3. ... 'Kol Makom she'Shenayim Ba'in Tachas Echad, Chatas Kodemes', he is referring to a Tamei Mikdash ve'Kodashav, who cannot afford a Korban Beheimah, and who brings instead an Olas ha'Of and a Chatas ha'Of.

(c)The problem this creates with what we just learned - is from the middle case, where, according to Rebbi Eliezer, the Yoledes first brings the Olah, whereas according to what we just learned, she ought to bring the Chatas first.

(d)Rava reconciles the two - by restricting Rebbi Eliezer to the way the Pasuk (which for some reason, places the Olah before the Chatas) should be read (see Tosfos DH 'le'Mikra'ah'), wheras in fact, the Chatas takes precedence.

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7)

(a)In what order of precedence does the Beraisa list goats, lambs, rams and bulls?

(b)How do we initially establish this Beraisa?

(c)How does pose a Kashya on the earlier Beraisa which always gives priority to a Chatas?

(d)How do we therefore re-establish it to answer the Kashya?

(e)What is the reason for this sequence? Why do ...

1. ... Parim precede Eilim and Eilim, Kevasim?

2. ... Kevasim precede Izim (bearing in mind that both are Olos)?

7)

(a)The Beraisa lists goats, lambs, rams and bulls in the reverse order of precedence of - 'bulls, rams, lambs and goats'.

(b)We initially establish this Beraisa - by the Musaf of Succos ...

(c)... thereby posing a Kashya on the earlier Beraisa, which always gives priority to a Chatas, seeing as the first three are Olos, and the goats, Chata'os.

(d)To answer the Kashya, we re-establish it by a Korban Nedavah consisting entirely of Olos.

(e)The reason for this sequence ...

1. ... Parim precede Eilim and Eilim, Kevasim - because the larger Nesechachim (i.e. larger quantities of wine, flour and oil) give them precedence.

2. ... Kevasim precede Izim (despite the fact that both are Olos) - because with regard to Shelamim and Chatas, its fat-tail is included in the Emurim.

8)

(a)A Beraisa gives the Par Kohen Mashi'ach precedence over the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur, and the Par He'elam Davar over the Sa'ir of the Nasi. To which does the Tana give precedence, between the Par Avodas-Kochavim and the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim?

(b)What is the problem with this?

(c)How do we partially answer this Kashya from the Reisha of the Beraisa?

(d)What still remains difficult?

8)

(a)A Beraisa gives the Par Kohen Mashi'ach precedence over the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur, and the Par He'elam Davar over the Sa'ir of the Nasi - and the Par Avodas-Kochavim over the Sa'ir Avodas-Kochavim ...

(b)... even though it is an Olah, and the latter a Chatas.

(c)We partially answer this Kashya from the Reisha of the Beraisa (the precedence of the Par Kohen Mashi'ach over the Par He'elam Davar shel Tzibur, because a Chatas precedes an Olah) - by conceding that the principle remains intact where both animals are from the same species (e.g. both bulls) ...

(d)What still remains difficult is - where the animals are different (where it seems that the Torah gives priority to the larger species, even if it is an Olah against a Chatas).

9)

(a)In Eretz Yisrael, they cited Rava bar Mari, who points to a missing 'Alef' in 'Chatas Avodas-Kochavim'. How does that answer the Kashya?

(b)Ravina answers with the word "ka'Mishpat". What does that teach us?

(c)How does this enable us to adjust the answer that we gave in the previous Beraisa (regarding the Parei ha'Chag)?

9)

(a)In Eretz Yisrael, they cited Rava bar Mari, who points to a missing 'Alef' in 'Chatas Avodas-Kochavim' - a hint that in this case, it does not take precedence over the Chatas.

(b)Ravina answers with the word "ka'Mishpat" - a 'Gezeiras ha'Kasuv' that here the animals must be brought in the order that they are mentioned (i.e. the Olah first).

(c)This enable us to adjust the answer that we gave in the previous Beraisa (regarding the Parei ha'Chag) - where the Torah also writes "ke'Mishpatam", to hint that there too, the Olos precede the Se'ir Chatas.

10)

(a)In a case where a Chatas ha'Of, an Olas Beheimah and a Ma'aser Beheimah are waiting to be brought, what problem do we have in starting with the ...

1. ... Chatas ha'Of?

2. ... Ma'aser Beheimah?

3. ... Olas Beheimah?

(b)We conclude 'Hacha Targimu Miyn Zevach Adif'. What do we mean by ...

1. ... 'Hacha'?

2. ... 'Miyn Zevach Adif'?

(c)On what basis do we give Ma'aser Beheimah priority over Olas Beheimah?

(d)What did they answer in Eretz Yisrael? Why is that?

10)

(a)In a case where a Chatas ha'Of, an Olas Beheimah and a Ma'aser Beheimah are waiting to be brought, the problem with starting with the ...

1. ... Chatas ha'Of is - that it cannot precede the Ma'aser Beheimah (see Tosfos DH 'Tikdam').

2. ... Ma'aser Beheimah is - that it cannot precede the Olas Beheimah.

3. ... Olas Beheimah is - that it cannot precede the Chatas ha'Of.

(b)We conclude 'Hacha Targimu Miyn Zevach Adif'. By ...

1. ... 'Hacha', we mean - in Bavel.

2. ... 'Miyn Zevach Adif', we mean - that the Ma'aser Beheimah is brought first.

(c)We give it priority over Olas Beheimah - due to the fact that, under no circumstances, can the Olas Beheimah precede the Chatas ha'Of (because it is a 'Gezeiras ha'Kasuv', which is more powerful than a S'vara).

(d)In Eretz Yisrael, they answered - that Chatas ha'Of comes first, because a. it overrides Olas Beheimah (despite the fact that the latter is 'Miyn Zevach') b. Olas ha'Of overrides Ma'aser. And since Chatas ha'Of overrides Olas Beheimah, as we just explained, it also overrides Ma'aser, by the same token.

11)

(a)We already learned that a Chatas generally precedes an Asham. What makes an Asham Metzora different?

(b)All Ashamos must be in their second year, except for two. Which two?

(c)What other distinction marks the Asham Nazir and Asham Metzora?

(d)To which Korbanos is our Mishnah referring when he writes that just as they are brought first, so too, are they eaten first?

11)

(a)We already learned that a Chatas generally precedes an Asham. The one exception is an Asham Metzora - which takes precedence over the accompanying Chatas, because it comes to permit the Metzora to eat Kodshim and to enter the Beis-Hamikdash.

(b)All Ashamos must be in their second year, except for - an Asham Nazir and an Asham Metzora.

(c)The other distinction that marks these two Ashamos is - that they do not carry the minimum price-tag of two Shekalim that other Ashamos do.

(d)When our Mishnah states that just as they are brought first, so too, are they eaten first - it is referring to all Korbanos that are eaten (Chatas, Asham, Todah and Shelamim).

12)

(a)What takes precedence, between yesterday's Shelamim on the one hand, and today's Shelamim or today's Chatas and Asham (according to Rebbi Meir) on the other?

(b)What do the Chachamim say?

(c)What does the Tana say about the Kohen's manner of how to eat Kodshei Kodshim? From where do we learn this?

(d)He is permitted to add spices of Chulin, and according to Rebbi Shimon, even spices of Terumah. On what grounds does Rebbi Meir dispute this?

(e)Why does Rebbi Shimon disagree?

12)

(a)If yesterday's Shelamim on the one hand, and today's Shelamim or today's Chatas and Asham (according to Rebbi Meir) on the other, are waiting to be brought on the Mizbe'ach - yesterday's Shelamim come first (because it is degrading for Korbanos to lie around without being sacrificed).

(b)According to the Chachamim - today's Chatas and Asham take precedence over yesterday's Shelamim (because the fact that they are Kodshei Kodshim overrides Rebbi Meir's S'vara).

(c)The Tana - permits the Kohen to eat Kodshei Kodshim in any manner that he pleases (roasted, well-cooked or just plain cooked, as we have already learned before from "le'Mashchah" [Korach], which means for greatness [implying however they please, like a king]).

(d)He is permitted to add spices of Chulin, and according to Rebbi Shimon, even spices of Terumah. Bearing in mind that if the Kodshim become Nosar, the Terumah spices will have to be burned together with the Korban, Rebbi Meir disputes this - on the basis of the principle 'Ein Mevi'in Kodshim le'Beis ha'Pesul'

(e)with which Rebbi Shimon disagrees, as we have already learned).

13)

(a)What do we ask with regard to Tadir and Mekudash?

(b)We try to resolve this She'eilah from the Mishnah 'Temidin Kodmin le'Musafin'. What do we prove from there?

(c)How do refute that?

(d)Similarly, we try to prove from the Mishnah 'Musfei Shabbos Kodmin le'Musfei Rosh Chodesh', and then from 'Musfei Rosh Chodesh Kodmin le'Musfei Rosh Hashanah' that Tadir takes precedence over Mekudash. How do we refute those proofs too?

13)

(a)We ask - which takes precedence, Tadir or Mekudash.

(b)We try to resolve this She'eilah from the Mishnah 'Temidin Kodmin le'Musafin' - on the assumption that the Musaf, which is unique to Shabbos, has more Kedushah than the Tamid, in which case Tadir takes precedence over Mekudash.

(c)We refute that however - by pointing out that the Tamid is sanctified by Shabbos no less than the Musaf.

(d)Similarly, we try to prove from the Mishnah 'Musfei Shabbos Kodmin le'Musfei Rosh Chodesh', and then from 'Musfei Rosh Chodesh Kodmin le'Musfei Rosh Hashanah' that Tadir takes precedence over Mekudash. But we refute those proofs too - in the same way as we did the previous one, by pointing out that Rosh Chodesh even adds Kedushah to the Musfei Shabbos, and so does Rosh Hashanah to the Kedushah of the Musaf Rosh Chodesh.

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