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1) RAV PAPA'S QUESTIONS ABOUT KEMITZAH AND CHAFINAH (cont'd)

(a) Question: Would the K'li Shareis be Mekadesh if he stuck the Kometz to its inner walls (fulfilling Toch) or must it fall to the bottom (a proper Hanachah)?
(b) Answer: Teiku.
(c) Question (Mar b. R. Ashi): What if he turned over the K'li Shareis and stuck the Kometz into its base (a proper Hanachah but not Toch?
(d) Answer: Teiku.
(e) Question: Is the Chafinah a heaping or level hands-full?
(f) Answer: The Beraisa teaches that it is in between.
(g) Question (after citing the Halachos of collecting and spilling blood and their sources R. Papa asks): If the Ketores spilled on the floor from the M'lo Chafnav:

1. Do we say that his hand is like the neck of the animal (and the Ketores would be Pesulah like the blood which spilled from the animal's neck) or;
2. Are his hands like a K'li Shareis and the Ketores is not Pesulah.

(h) Answer: Teiku.
(i) Question: If he thought (as he did the Chafinah) to be Maktir the Ketores the next day, do we learn from "M'lo" to connect it to the Minchah or not?
(j) Answer: We see from R. Akiva's addition to the Mishnah in Iduyos that since Linah creates a P'sul, so, too, does Machshavah.

(k) Question: Is the Chatiyah of the coals an Avodah, such that a Machshavah could make it Pigul, or is a Machshir not considered like the Mitzvah itself?
(l) Answer: Teiku.

(a) Question (asked of R. Sheishes): What if the Holachah of the blood of a Korban is performed with the left hand?
(b) Answer: We see from our Mishnah (where the Kaf is carried in his left hand) that carrying with the left is Kosher.

1. Question: Why didn't R. Sheishes learn directly from the Mishnah in Tamid where Holachah (of the Eivarim) is done with the left hand?
2. Answer: We might have differentiated since the Eivarim are not integral to the Kaparah as the Zerikah (and its associated Holachah) are.