POINT BY POINT OUTLINE
Prepared by Rabbi P. Feldman
of Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Yerushalayim
daf@dafyomi.co.il http://www.dafyomi.co.il
1) IRREDEEMABLE "HEKDESH"
(a) Question (Rav Hamnuna): To where did the Kedushah go?
1. If a man told a woman 'today you are my wife,
tomorrow you are not', does she cease to be his wife
without a Get?!
(b) Answer (Rava): You cannot equate monetary Kedushah to
intrinsic Kedushah!
1. Monetary Kedushah can vanish; intrinsic Kedushah
cannot.
(c) Objection (Abaye): Also intrinsic Kedushah can vanish!
1. (Beraisa): If one said 'this ox is an Olah for 30
days. After 30 days, it is a Shelamim', for 30 days
it is an Olah; after that, a Shelamim.
2. This shows that intrinsic Kedushah can vanish!
(d) Answer (Rava): The case is he said that the value of the
ox should be for an Olah .
(e) Question: If so, why does the Seifa say 'after 30 days,
this ox is an Olah . From now, it is a Shelamim' (his
words are fulfilled)?
1. Granted, if one discusses intrinsic Kedushah and the
other discusses monetary Kedushah, the Tana needed
to teach both cases.
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i. One might have thought that intrinsic Kedushah
cannot vanish, but monetary Kedushah can!
2. But if both discuss monetary Kedushah, why must two
cases be taught?
i. If a severe Kedushah (an Olah) can vanish, to
be replaced by a light Kedushah (a Shelamim),
all the more so, a light Kedushah can vanish,
to be replaced regarding a severe Kedushah!
(f) Suggestion: This refutes bar Pada, who says that even
monetary Kedushah cannot vanish.
(g) Rejection (Rav Papa): No. He can explain the Beraisa to
say that had he not said 'It is a Shelamim from now', it
would be an Olah after 30 days.
1. This is like a man who tells a woman 'You will be
Mekudeshes to me after 30 days.' The Kidushin takes
effect, even if the money is consumed in the
meantime.
2. Objection: This is obvious!
3. Answer #1: The Chidush is, it takes effect even if
in the meantime he wants to retract the Kidushin.
4. Question: This is like the opinion that she may not
retract during the 30 days. According to the opinion
that she may retract during the 30 days, how can we
answer?
(l) Answer: Even that opinion admits that here he cannot
retract, for saying that one will give something to
Hekdesh is like handing over to a person (an
acquisition).
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