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5)
(a) The Beraisa (which substantiates Rava) says in the case of 'Eilu l'Chatasi, v'ha'Sha'ar l'Sha'ar Nezirusi' that ...
1. ... the money of the Chatas - goes to the Yam ha'Melach.
2. ... the money of the Olah and the Shelamim - is transferred, half for an Olah, and half for a Chatas.
(b) The Tosefta establishes the Beraisa when the Noder died - because if he was still alive, there would be no reason for the money of the Chatas to go to the Yam ha'Melach.
(c) There is ...
1. ... Me'ilah for using all (or even most of) the remaining money - because some of the money at least, must be that of the Olah, which is subject toMe'ilah.
2. ... no Me'ilah for using only part of it - because it is fit to be used for a Shelamim, which is not subject to Me'ilah.
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6)
(a) The Beraisa says in the case of 'Eilu l'Olasi, v'ha'Sha'ar l'Sha'ar Nezirusi' that ...
1. ... the money of the Olah - goes to buy an Olah.
2. ... the money of the Chatas and the Shelamim - goes to Nedavah (because it contains that of a Chatas).
(b) There is no Me'ilah for using part of that remaining money - because it is fit to be used for a Shelamim.
(c) We say this because despite the fact that the money goes to Nedavah, which, after all, is an Olah (to which Me'ilah does apply) - the transition to Nedavah only takes place when he actually comes to bring it (see Hagahos ha'Gra).
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7)
(a) Rav Huna Amar Rav explains that the Beraisa is speaking when the deceased left behind money, but not animals - in which case it would have the Din of Ma'os Mefurashin.
(b) This cannot be speaking when he left a female lamb (for his Chatas), a lamb (for his Olah) and a ram (for his Shelamim), because that is obvious and Rav would not be teaching us any Chidush; and besides, that is already contained in a Mishnah. Moreover - Rav probably speaks in the same circumstances as Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak, who precludes objects such as a piece of silver, from the Din in the Beraisa, and which is certainly not fit to be brought as a Korban.
(c) So we establish Rav - when he brought three animals that were not fit to be brought as Korbenos Nazir, such as three bulls.
(d) The animals have the Din of mixed Mefurashin (which go to the Yam ha'Melach). Consequently - they too must die.
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8)
(a) Rav Nachman qualifies Rav's previous ruling - by confining it to unblemished animals, but blemished ones, have the Din of Stumos, which go to Nedavah.
(b) Despite the fact that, even when they are not blemished, they are unfit to be brought as the Korbanos for which they were designated, blemished animals are nevertheless different than unblemished ones - inasmuch as they are Kadosh Kedushas ha'Guf.
(c) Despite the fact that they are not fit to be brought as Korbenos Nazir, they have Kedushas ha'Guf - because Rav Nachman holds like the Rabanan in Temurah, who maintain that if someone designates a female animal as an Olah, it has Kedushas ha'Guf (seeing as it is fit to be brought as a Shelamim or a Chatas).
(d) And despite the fact that, even though the animals are not blemished, they need to be sold and it is the money which will be used to purchase Korbanos - nevertheless, they are not considered Stumin (like blemished ones) - because unlike blemished animals, they would still need to become blemished before they could be sold and replaced.
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9)
(a) Rabeinu Tam says that if someone retained these blemished animals for a long period of time - they have the Din of mixed Mefurashin, which, as we discussed on the previous Amud, go to the Yam ha'Melach (because we are afraid that, in the course of time, the Noder may just declare part of them a Chatas). In fact, Rabeinu Tam learns the entire Sugya on this basis. But I shall be using the explanation of the Rosh, who explains Resh Lakish (who learns 'Ma'os Stumin' from a Pasuk) in this way.
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10)
(a) Rav Nachman restricts 'Ma'os Stumin Yiplu li'Nedavah' (in our Mishnah), to money, but not to pieces of silver - which have the Din of mixed Mefurashin, and go to the Yam ha'Melach, because he does not consider them to be Ma'os (since they are not normally used as currency).
(b) Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak agrees with him with regard to beams of wood - which are certainly not Ma'os, but not with regard to pieces of silver, which he considers Ma'os, because one sells them immediately like coins, or because one purchases with them.
(c) According to Resh Lakish, who learns Ma'os Stumin from a Pasuk, and not from a Halachah - we will preclude beams or pieces of silver from Ma'os Stumin due to the suspicion that, since one tends to retain them for long periods, the owner may have designated the money for a Chatas (in which case, it must go to the Yam ha'Melach).
(d) The Machlokes between Rav Nachman and Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak regarding pieces of silver is - whether people tend to hold on to them for a long period of time (Rav Nachman) or not (Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak).
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11)
(a) Rav Shimi bar Ashi, queries this Halachah on the grounds that, by the same token, we ought then to say 'Ma'os v'Lo Ofos' - meaning that a pair of unspecified birds should also then be considered mixed Mefurashin which go to the Yam ha'Melach (Rosh).
(b) This cannot pertain to chickens and the like (which are unfit to be brought as Korbanos, and) which, in turn, are unfit to be used as Korbanos (like pieces of silver and planks, which we just precluded from 'Ma'os') - because, seeing as they are not fit to be brought as any Korban, they would be considered like blemished animals, which are fit to be sold immediately and have the Din of Ma'os Stumin.
(c) We initially think that Rav Shimi bar Ashi's statement can only pertain to someone who is Chayav Kinin (e.g. a Metzora or a Zav), but not to a Nazir - because, unlike blemished animals, birds that are Kadosh Kedushas ha'Guf, cannot be redeemed. Consequently, unless they are fit to be brought for the person concerned, the fact that they are fit to be brought in other cases would not help to make them Stumin.
(d) It is possible however - to establish it in the case of a Tamei Nazir, who also brings birds.
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12)
(a) Rav Chisda says - that the two birds brought by someone who is Chayav to bring a Ken can be fixed, either by the owner designating them when he purchases them, or by the Kohen when he actually sacrifices them just bring them.
(b) The problem that Rav Shimi bar Ashi now has with regard to the Halachah 'Ma'os v'Lo Naska ... v'Lo Ofos', as we explained above, is - how the Kohen could then designate the two birds in the Ken, which have a Din of mixed Mefurashin.
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