1)

DO ISURIM OF KODSHIM JOIN? (Yerushalmi Orlah Perek 2 Halachah 9 Daf 15b)

îúðé' çúéëä ùì ÷ãùé ÷ãùéí åùì ôéâåì åùì ðåúø ùðúáùìå òí çúéëåú àñåø ìæøéí åîåúø ìëäðéí.

(a)

(Mishnah): If a piece of Kodshei Kodoshim, and [a piece] of Pigul or Nosar, were cooked with pieces [of Chulin], it is forbidden to Zarim and permitted to Kohanim. (There is enough Heter to be Mevatel one piece, but not both. This is like the previous Mishnah, in which R. Shimon and Chachamim argue about whether or not Isurim join - Rishonim.)

[ãó ìá òîåã à (òåæ åäãø)] øáé ùîòåï îúéø ìæøéí åìëäðéí.

1.

R. Shimon permits to Zarim and to Kohanim.

áùø ÷ãùé ÷ãùéí åáùø ÷ãùéí ÷ìéí ùðúáùìå òí áùø äúàåä àñåø [ãó èæ òîåã à] ìèîàéí åîåúø ìèäåøéí:

(b)

If meat of Kodshei Kodoshim or meat of Kodshim Kalim was cooked with Chulin meat, it is forbidden to Temei'im and permitted to Tehorim.

âî' úðé (ùì ôéâåì åùì ðåúø åùì) [ö"ì ôéâåì åðåúø ùì - äâø"à] ÷ãùéí ÷ìéí.

(c)

(Gemara - Beraisa): [Our Mishnah discusses] Pigul and Nosar of Kodshim Kalim.

[ãó ìá òîåã á (òåæ åäãø)] àîø ø' éåðä (ìà àîø àìà ÷ãùéí ÷ìéí - äâø"à îåç÷å) ôéâåì åðåúø ìàçø æøé÷ä ìà ëìôðé æøé÷ä äï

(d)

Question (R. Yonah): Are not Pigul and Nosar after Zerikah [forbidden] like before Zerikah?!

ìà àîø àìà ôéâåì åðåúø (ãáø ùàéï æøé÷ä îúøúå á÷ãùé ÷ãùéí) [ö"ì ùàéï æøé÷ä îúéøúå - äâø"à] äà á÷ãùéí ÷ìéí äåàéì åäï îåúøéï àçø æøé÷ä àôéìå ìôðé æøé÷ä àéï ìå÷éï òìéäï îùåí æøåú.

(e)

Answer: [Our Mishnah discusses] Pigul and Nosar, that Zerikah does not permit it, but Kodshim Kalim, since they are permitted after Zerikah, even before Zerikah, one is not lashed for them due to being a Zar.

àîø øáé éåñé (ìà àîøå àìà ÷ãùéí ÷ìéí - äâø"à îåç÷å) ôéâåì åðåúø ìàçø æøé÷ä ìà ëìôðé æøé÷ä äï

(f)

Question (R. Yosi): Are not Pigul and Nosar after Zerikah [forbidden] like before Zerikah?! (We explained this like GRA.)

ìàéæä ãáø ðàîø ôéâåì åðåúø ìäåöéà ÷ãùéí ÷ìéí ìàçø æøé÷ä

(g)

Answer: Why were Pigul and Nosar taught? It was to exclude Kodshim Kalim after Zerikah (which are permitted);

äà ìôðé æøé÷ä äåàéì åäï àñåøéï á÷ãùéí ÷ìéí ìå÷éï òìéäï îùåí æøåú.

1.

Inference: Before Zerikah, since Kodshim Kalim are forbidden, one is lashed for them due to Zarus.

àîø øáé àáéï ìéùï îúðéúà îñééò ìøáé éåñé [ãáøéí éá éæ] åðãáåúéê æå úåãä åùìîéí ùàí àëì îäï ìôðé æøé÷ú ãîéí ìå÷ä.

(h)

Support (for R. Yosi - R. Avin - Beraisa): "V'Nidvosecha" - this is Todah and Shelamim, that if one ate from them before Zerikas Dam, he is lashed.

øáé ùîòåï áï ì÷éù àîø áîçìå÷ú.

(i)

(Reish Lakish): [Tana'im] argue [about the Seifa of our Mishnah].

øáé éåçðï àîø ãáøé äëì.

(j)

(R. Yochanan): All agree to it.

å÷ùéà òì ãøáé ùîòåï áï ì÷éù [ãó ìâ òîåã à (òåæ åäãø)] ìà ëï ñáøðï îéîø ëåìäï (ìùåï) [ö"ì ùí - äâø"à] úøåîä îöèøôéï åëà éöèøôå ëåìäï (ìùåï èåîàä åìùåï æøåú) [ö"ì ùí ÷ãùéí - äâø"à]

(k)

Question (against Reish Lakish): Do we not hold that everything called Terumah joins? Here, everything called Kodshim should join!

ñáø øáé ùîòåï áï ì÷éù ëäãà ãúðé áø ÷ôøà çúéëä [ãó èæ òîåã á] ùì (÷åãù åùì ôéâåì åùì ðåúø) [ö"ì ÷ãùé ÷ãùéí åùì ÷ãùéí ÷ìéí - äâø"à] ùðúáùìå òí äçúéëåú øáé ùîòåï îúéø åçëîéí àåñøéï:

(l)

Answer: Reish Lakish holds like a Beraisa that Bar Kapara taught - a piece of Kodshei Kodoshim and a piece of Kodshim Kalim that were cooked with pieces [of Chulin], R. Shimon permits and Chachamim forbid. We explained this like GRA.)

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