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(a) We just established the Machlokes between Rebbi Meir and the Chachamim by whether the Sechirus only falls due at the end, or whether the hirer becomes obligated Perutah by Perutah. We subsequently suggest that both Tana'im might even hold ...
1. ... the latter possibility and ha'Mekadesh b'Milveh Einah Mekudeshes'. What then, is the basis of their Machlokes? What sort of craftsman are they arguing about?
2. ... that the craftsman does not acquire the vessel that he has made. What is then the basis of their Machlokes?
(b) The Tana Kama of another Beraisa differentiates between a man who betroths a woman 'bi'Sechar she'Asisi Imach' (in the past) and 'bi'Sechar she'E'eseh Imach' (in the future). On what grounds does he say ...
1. ... 'bi'Sechar she'Asisi Imach, Einah Mekudeshes'?
2. ... 'bi'Sechar she'E'eseh Imach, Mekudeshes'?
(c) Why does Rebbi Nasan then say that even in the latter case, she is not Mekudeshes?
(d) After agreeing with the statement of Rebbi Nasan, Rebbi adds 've'Im Hosif Lah Nofach mi'she'Lo, Mekudeshes'. What does Rebbi Nasan say? Why is that?
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8)
(a) According to our Mishnah, what will be the Din if a man promises to betroth a woman with wine, with a golden Dinar or on condition that he is rich, and it turns out to be honey, silver or that he is poor, or vice-versa?
(b) What does Rebbi Shimon say? Which case in the Mishnah is he referring to?
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9)
(a) If a man says 'Hiskadshi Li b'Kos Zeh', one Beraisa rules 'Bo u'Vameh she'Besocho'. What does the Tana mean?
(b) A second Beraisa says 'Bo v'Lo Bameh she'Besocho'. What does a third Beraisa say?
(c) How do we reconcile the three Tana'im? In which case do we say ...
1. ... 'Bo u'Vameh she'Besocho'?
2. ... 'Bo v'Lo Bameh she'Besocho'?
3. ... 'Bameh she'Besocho v'Lo Bo'?
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10)
(a) What does the Beraisa rule regarding a man who paid money for vinegar and it turns out to be wine?
(b) Why does this pose a problem on Rebbi Shimon in our Mishnah?
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11)
(a) Abaye tries to resolve this problem. He explained to his son that the Machlokes between the Tana Kama and Rebbi Shimon concerns a Shali'ach. What is the case? What is then the basis of their Machlokes?
(b) What is the problem with Abaye's explanation from the word ...
1. ... 'Hiskadshi Li'?
2. ... 'Hit'ah li'Shevach'?
(c) What third Kashya do we ask from 'be'Dinar Zeh shel Kesef v'Nimtza shel Zahav'?
(d) Rava resolves the problem together with Rebbi Chiya bar Avin. What title did he confer upon the latter?
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12)
(a) In fact, Rava's answer agrees in principle with that of Abaye. What is the difference between the two answers?
(b) How does Rava then explain the statement 've'Nimtza shel Zahav'?
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