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8)
(a) What did that Roman do when a certain woman refused to accept his proposal for marriage?
(b) What happened to her?
(c) How did he get her to accept?
(d) How did he then cure her?
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9)
(a) The author of our Mishnah, which requires a woman to manufacture woolen clothes (but not linen ones), is Rebbi Yehudah. On what grounds does Rebbi Yehudah differentiate between wool and linen? Why should she not have to manufacture linen clothes?
(b) The Tana of the Beraisa does not require the woman to serve her husband's father or his son. Why is her husband not permitted to instruct her to place straw in front of his animal?
(c) Why then, may he instruct her to place straw in front of his cattle?
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10)
(a) According to Rav Chinena Brei d'Rav Ika, the author of 'Shefod', 'Shefachos' (our case) and 'Gumos' is Rav Malkiyo; of 'Beloris', 'Efer Makleh' and 'Gevinah', is Rav Malkiya. What does Rav Papa say? What is the meaning of the Siman 'Masnita Malkesa'?
(b) Over which case are they then arguing?
(c) Seeing as both Rebbi Eliezer and Raban Shimon ben Gamliel agree that a woman is never exempt from work, what is the difference whether it is because idleness leads to adultery or to senility?
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11)
(a) In our Mishnah, which discusses a man who makes a Neder forbidding Tashmish with his wife, Beis Shamai allow a maximum of two weeks. What do Beis Hillel say?
(b) Bearing in mind the Pasuk in Mishpatim "v'Onasah Lo Yigra", how is such a Neder valid in the first place?
(c) What happens if someone makes a Neder for a longer period than that?
(d) Talmidim are permitted to leave home to study Torah without express permission from their wives, for thirty days. What is the maximum time period allowed to laborers?
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12)
(a) Rebbi Eliezer gives the Shi'ur Onah for all the different groups of people. What is Onah?
(b) The Onah of Tayalim (which will be explained later in the Sugya) is every day, workers, twice weekly and ass-drivers, once a week. What is the Onah of ...
1. ... camel-drivers?
2. ... sailors?
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13)
(a) Beis Shamai in our Mishnah learn two weeks (by Neder) from a woman who gives birth to a girl (and who is Tamei for two weeks). On what grounds do we reject the original contention, that Beis Hillel's source for one week is a woman who gave birth to a boy?
(b) So we conclude that Beis Hillel's source is a Nidah (who is forbidden to her husband for one week). Why do ...
1. ... Beis Hillel prefer to learn the Din of Neder from a Nidah rather than from a woman who gave birth to a girl?
2. ... Beis Shamai prefer to learn the Din of Neder from a woman who gave birth to a girl rather than from a Nidah?
(c) According to Rav, Beis Shamai and Beis Hillel argue when the man specifically mentioned the respective time period of each party, but not if he made the Neder Stam. Why is that? What will the Din be if he did?
(d) Why does Shmuel disagree with Rav? On what grounds does he establish the Machlokes even by Stam?
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14)
(a) What does the Mishnah in ha'Madir say about a man who makes a Neder forbidding his wife from having Hana'ah from him? What distinction does the Tana draw between up to thirty days and more than thirty days?
(b) Rav and Shmuel are involved in the same Machlokes there (regarding Stam) as they are here, and for the same reasons, apparently duplicating their views here. Why might we have thought that, had ...
1. ... Rav said by Stam that he must send his wife away and pay her Kesubah in our case, he might nevertheless agree with Shmuel in ha'Madir?
2. ... Shmuel said in ha'Madir that even by Stam, he waits thirty days just in case he is able to find a Pesach for is Neder, he might nevertheless agree with Rav in our case?
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