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(a) What does Rav Safra ... Amar Rav Huna (or Amar Rav Huna Amar Rav) say in a case where two of the Dayanim recognize the signatures of both witnesses, but not the third? Up to when are two Dayanim permitted to testify in front of the one, according to the initial version of his statement?
(b) What did Rav Papi Amar Rava say regarding the Beis-Din's substantiation of a document that forces us to retract from the current version of Rav Huna's statement?
(c) So what did Rav Huna say?
(d) What major principle do we learn from there?
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(a) On what grounds does Rav Ashi refute the proof from Rav Huna's statement that ...
1. ... once Dayanim recognize the witnesses' signatures, it is not necessary to verbally attest to the signatures in front of them?
2. ... it is necessary to attest to the signatures on behalf of each of Dayan who does recognize them?
(b) The Mishnah in Rosh Hashanah teaches that if three members of Sanhedrin saw the new moon, two of them must stand down, to be replaced by other members of the Sanhedrin. Then they testify before the three Dayanim who did not see the new moon ... . Why do they need to testify at all? Why can they not ...
1. ... just sit down and pronounce Rosh Chodesh there and then?
2. ... testify before the third Dayan, and then sit down and pronounce Rosh Chodesh together with him?
(c) What did Rebbi Aba tell Rav Safra, when he asked him to reconcile this ruling with the previous one (with regard to Kiyum Shtaros - the verification of documents), which holds 'Eid Na'aseh Dayan'?
(d) Rebbi Chiya bar Rav ultimately presented his father with the Kashya. What did he reply?
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(a) What did Rav Huna Amar Rav rule with regard to three Dayanim who sit down to substantiate a Shtar, and before the third Dayan is able to sign, a rumor spreads that he is Pasul?
(b) Why can they not attest to his validity once they have signed?
(c) What does 'a rumor' imply?
(d) Why can this not be speaking about a rumor that ...
1. ... he is a thief (according to our initial understanding)?
2. ... he is a slave?
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9)
We finally establish Rav Huna Amar Rav's ruling with regard to a rumor that he is a thief. How do we resolve what we asked earlier 'Trei u'Trei Ninhu'?
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