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Kesuvos Chart #10

Kesuvos Daf 57a

KEY:
[ ] = A Halachah that is not mentioned explicitly
by Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi or Rebbi Yochanan
Machlokes = Rebbi Yosi and Rebbi Yehudah argue about this
in the Beraisa (56b)

AT WHAT POINT MAY A WOMAN FOREGO (MOCHELES) HER KESUVAH?
  (A)
BEGINNING OF CHUPAH
(B)
END OF CHUPAH (AKA BEGINNING OF BI'AH)
(C)
END OF BI'AH
CONCLUSION OF THE GEMARA
1) RAV DIMI
  1a) R. Yehoshua
ben Levi
Machlokes [Machlokes](1) not Mocheles
  1b) R. Yochanan Machlokes Machlokes [not Mocheles]
2) RAVIN
  2a) R. Yehoshua
ben Levi
is Mocheles Machlokes [Machlokes]
  2b) R. Yochanan [is Mocheles] Machlokes Machlokes
RAV PAPA'S HAVAH AMINA
3) RAV DIMI
  3a) R. Yehoshua
ben Levi
[is Mocheles] Machlokes not Mocheles
  3b) R. Yochanan [Machlokes] Machlokes Machlokes
4) RAVIN
  4a) R. Yehoshua
ben Levi
is Mocheles Machlokes [not Mocheles]
  4b) R. Yochanan Machlokes Machlokes [Machlokes]
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FOOTNOTES:
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(1) This is the way Rav Avahu interprets Rav Dimi's quote of RYB"L, as it appears in the texts of our Gemara and Rashi: according to Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi, Rebbi Yosi and Rebbi Yehudah argue concerning "Techilas *Chupah* (and Sof Bi'ah)." However, it would seem more appropriate to say that Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi says that they argue about "Techilas *Bi'ah* (and Sof Bi'ah)" -- and that it goes without saying that they argue about *Techilas* Chupah. This would in fact parallel the way Rav Avahu interprets Ravin's version of Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi: Rebbi Yehoshua ben Levi does not mention "Sof Bi'ah" at all, but mentions Techilas *Chupah* to Sof *Chupah* -- and it goes without saying that they argue about Sof Bi'ah.

The RITVA (as quoted by the SHITAH MEKUBETZES), who points this out, in fact cites Rashi as saying just that: Rav Avahu interprets Rav Dimi's RYB"L as saying that Rebbi Yehudah and Rebbi Yosi argue concerning "Techilas *Bi'ah* (and Sof Bi'ah)." (The text of the Gemara in the Munich and Leningrad manuscripts combines both versions: "they argue concerning Techilas *Chupah- Bi'ah*." See SHITAH MEKUBETZES on the Sugya at length.)


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