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6)
(a) What does the Beraisa say about someone who is pleased with the dew ...
1. ... that he finds on his fruit which is drying on the roof?
2. ... that he discovers had previously been on the now dry fruit?
(b) How does the Seifa pose a Kashya on Rava?
(c) To answer the Kashya, we cite Rav Papa. How does Rav Papa explain the fact that the word "Yutan" (in the Pasuk "ve'Chi Yutan Mayim al Zera" is spelt without a 'Vav' (to read "Yiten").
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7)
(a) What does Rebbi Yochanan quoting Rebbi Shimon ben Yehotzadak learn from the Pasuk in Ki Seitzei "ve'Chein Ta'aseh le'Simlaso ... Asher Tovad Mimenu u'Metzasah"? Does it make any difference whether the owner knows about it at the time or not?
(b) What do we extrapolate from here that finally disproves Rava?
(c) In how many other cases in Shas do we rule like Abaye against Rava?
(d) What did Rav Acha Brei de'Rava ask Rav Ashi about dates that have been blown off the palm-tree by the wind, now that Rava has been disproved?
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8)
(a) Why, in reality, could Rav Acha bar Rava have asked the same question even if Rava had not been disproved?
(b) What was Rav Ashi's reply?
(c) What will be the Din if the palm-trees belong to young orphans? Would we also forbid eating the dates from any date-palm, due to the possibility that the owner is a Yasom Katan?
(d) Rav Ashi also forbids the dates in the case of 'Karsh'sa'. What is 'Karsh'sa'?
(e) On what grounds does he forbid it?
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9)
(a) Rabah establishes 'small sheaves in the Reshus ha'Rabim' (which our Mishnah permits the finder to keep) even when they have a Si'man. What does Rava say?
(b) What is the basis of their Machlokes?
(c) How do others present the Machlokes?
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10)
(a) We extrapolate from 'K'richos bi'Reshus ha'Rabim', that in a Reshus ha'Yachid, the finder would be obligated to return them. Why is this a Kashya on Rava?
(b) What does Rava reply? Why might one be obligated to return sheaves that one finds in a Reshus ha'Yachid, even if they have no Si'man?
(c) Then why is Makom not a Si'man in the Reisha?
(d) What does Rabah say about that?
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(a) We just learned that our Mishnah draws a distinction between whether one finds small sheaves in a Reshus ha'Rabim or in a Reshus ha'Yachid. What does the Beraisa add with regard to large sheaves.
(b) Bearing in mind that a Siman that is going to be trodden on (Rabah) or that is going to get kicked around (Rava) is not considered a Si'man, why may the finder not keep large sheaves that he finds in a Reshus ha'Yachid, according to ...
1. ... Rabah?
2. ... Rava?
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