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5)
(a) We may have now resolved Rebbi Yehudah's statements, having concluded that he holds 'Ein Bereirah'. But we are still faced with a contradiction in Rebbi Yochanan (in whose opinion both the Tzenu'in and Rebbi Dosa hold 'Yesh Bereirah'). What did Rav Asi say in his name regarding brothers who divided their deceased father's property?
(b) So how do we finally conclude in Rebbi Yochanan with regard to 'Kol ha'Nilkat/Mislaket'?
(c) But if the Tzenu'in (who say 'Kol ha'Mislaket') hold 'Yesh Bereirah', how can Rebbi Yochanan hold otherwise (as we ascertained earlier)?
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6)
(a) How does Rebbi Yochanan extrapolate from our Mishnah 'Ein ha'Gonev Achar ha'Ganav Meshalem Tashlumei Kefel', that the owner cannot declare Hekdesh an article over which he has no jurisdiction?
(b) And how do we reconcile Rebbi Yehudah (whose initial statement of 'Kol she'Yilk'tu' we have reinstated) with his opinion in the Beraisa in Demai, where he forbids the owner to declare Ma'aser on Erev Shabbos and to Ma'aser it on Shabbos after he has drunk part of it? If he holds 'Yesh Bereirah', then why does he forbid it?
(c) How does Rebbi Yochanan extrapolate the opinion of our Stam Mishnah (rather than the Stam Mishnah of Tzenu'in) from the Pasuk "v'Ish Ki Yakdish Es Beiso Kodesh"?
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(a) Abaye points out that, had Rebbi Yochanan not equated the opinion of the Tzenu'in with that of Rebbi Dosa, he would have said that Rebbi Dosa (who talks about the poor collecting Leket), disagrees with the Tzenu'in (who talk about a Ganav picking fruit from a Kerem Reva'i). Why is that?
(b) According to him, would the Tzenu'in agree with Rebbi Dosa?
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8)
(a) In similar style, Rava points out that, were it not for Rebbi Yochanan's statement, he would have established the Tzenu'in like Rebbi Meir, who holds 'Ma'aser Mamon Gavohah Hu'. What do we nevertheless learn from the Pasuk in Bechukosai "v'Im Yig'Al Ish mi'Ma'asro"?
(b) How does Rava then connect the Tzenu'in with Rebbi Meir via the Pasuk in Kedoshim (in connection with Neta Reva'i) "Kodesh Hilulim"?
(c) And what would the Tzenu'in then hold in the case of Rebbi Dosa ('Kol ha'Nilkat)?
(d) Rebbi Yochanan therefore informs us that this is not the case, but that 'Tzenu'in v'Rebbi Dosa Amru Davar Echad'. What are the ramifications of his statement?
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9)
(a) And in similar style again, Ravina states that, if not for Rebbi Yochanan, he would have established the author of the Beraisa of Tzenu'in as Rebbi Dosa. What would he have gained by doing so?
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