REVIEW QUESTIONS ON GEMARA AND RASHI
prepared by Rabbi Eliezer Chrysler
Kollel Iyun Hadaf, Jerusalem
Previous daf Bechoros 59
(a) Rava validates Ma'aser, even if one did not declare it to be holy. Is
there a proof for Rava from the Beraisa which validates Ma'aser even if one
did not declare it be the tenth?
(b) Is there a proof from the Beraisa which validates the tenth lamb which
left the pen after he had declared the ninth to be the tenth, even though he
did not say anything else?
(c) Why is there no proof from the following Beraisa? If, after he declared
the ninth lamb to be Ma'aser, the tenth one died in the pen, the ninth may
be eaten as soon as it becomes blemished, and the rest - the first eight -
are all Patur. Is that not a proof that the tenth lamb is automatically
(d) From where *does* the Gemara prove Rava to be right?
(e) One Beraisa rules that if one called the ninth animal 'the tenth', it is
Ma'aser, and may only be eaten when it becomes blemished; Whereas another
Beraisa rules that it is Chulin and may be eaten immediately. How does the
Gemara solve this discrepancy?
(a) What is the Halachic difference between the ninth lamb which he declared
to be the tenth and the eleventh which he declared to be the tenth?
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(b) Rebbi Shimon holds that the ninth has the same Din as the eleventh,
inasmuch as they are both not holy unless the name 'tenth' has been removed
from the tenth. What is the meaning of this last phrase?
(c) The Rabanan hold that the ninth (unlike the eleventh) *is* holy. What is
the basis of their argument?
(a) Rava says that 'Minyan ha'Ra'uy' exempts. What is 'Minyan ha'Ra'uy'?
(b) Why is there no proof from our Mishnah which writes that if one of the
counted ones jumped back into the pen, they are all Patur from Ma'aser? Is
that not because of 'Minyan ha'Ra'uy'?
(c) Why is there no proof from the Seifa which says that if one of the
'Me'usarin' jumped back, they are all Chayav? How do we know that
'Me'usarin' in the Seifa *must* be referring to the actual tenth lambs, and
not just those which had Ma'aser taken from them?
(a) What would be the Din if, after five lambs have been counted one of
(b) What would be the Din if, after five lambs have been countedone of the
lambs *remaining in the pen* dies?
(a) If, out of fourteen lambs, six left the pen through one gate, and four
through a second gate, what Din will the six have, regarding Ma'asros?
(b) What Din will the first four have, regarding Ma'asros? And what will be
the Din of the last four still remaining in the pen and the four that left
via the second gate, regarding Ma'asros?
(c) What will be the Din regarding the same three groups, if the four left
the pen first, and then the six?
(d) And what if the two groups of four left first, leaving the six in the
(e) What is the Chidush of this Din of Rava's?
(a) If someone has fifteen lambs, what might we have thought that he could
do (regarding Ma'aser)?
What did Rav Nachman bar Yitzchak say in praise of Rav Huna bar Sechorah and
(b) How must he in fact, Ma'aser them?
(c) What are the two differences between the two possibilities?
(d) In which case does the Beraisa say that the rest are Patur?
(e) Why did the Gemara not answer, that the Beraisa is speaking even about
a pen with one gate, but in a case when, after counting nine, the owner
mistakenly called the tenth one 'one', in which case the first nine are
Patur because of 'Minyan ha'Ra'uy', and the nineteenth will now be the tenth
(of the second batch)?
(f) Why did the Gemara not answer that it is speaking even about a pen with
one gate, when the owner counted them in pairs, so that when he has counted
to nine (eighteen lambs), the tenth one is the Ma'aser of one of the two
sets, though we do not know which. The first eighteen will be Patur, one
because it has been duly had Ma'aser taken from it, and the other, because
of 'Minyan ha'Ra'uy' (since the last one was fit to combine with either of
the two sets)?
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