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(a) Rebbi Elazar learns from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem la'Se'irim" - that someone who Shechts to Markulis (which is not normally worshipped in that way) is Chayav.
(b) This Pasuk is not needed to teach us the prohibition of Shechting for an Avodah-Zarah that is worshipped in this way - because we already know that from the Pasuk in Re'ei "Eichah Ya'avdu ha'Goyim ha'Eileh es Eloheihem ... ".
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(a) The Pesukim ("ve'el Pesach Ohel Mo'ed Lo Hevi'o ... " prior to the one under discussion are referring to the Isur of Shechutei Chutz - (Shechting and sacrificing animals outside the Azarah at a time when Bamos are forbidden, for which one receives Kareis (as the Pasuk continues "Ve'nichresah").
(b) The Pasuk in Re'ei "Hishamer l'cha Pen Ta'aleh Olosecha be'Chol Makom ... " - is the Azharah ...
(c) ... since "Hishamer", "Pen"and "Al" all denote 'Lo Sa'aseh' as Rebbi Avin Amar Rebbi Ila taught us.
(d) And we learn from the Pasuk in Acharei-Mos ...
1. ... "Lema'an asher Yavi'u B'nei Yisrael es Zivcheihem asher Heim Zovchim al-P'nei ha'Sadeh ... Ve'hevi'um la'Hashem" - that if someone takes an animal that is designated at the time when Bamos are permitted, and Shechts (or sacrifices) it after they became forbidden, he has transgresses an Asei, and from ...
2. ... "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem" - that he has transgressed a Lo Sa'aseh, too.
3. ... "Chukas Olam le'Doroseichem" - that Kareis is confined to the original case (where one Shechts or sacrifices an animal that is designated as a Korban at the time when Bamos are forbidden), but not to the latter case.
(e) Rava explains that, despite the fact that we need the Pasuk "ve'Lo Yizbechu Od es Zivcheihem" for the current D'rashah, Rebbi Elazar uses it to obligate someone who Shechts an animal to Markulis - because he learns an additional D'rashah from the word "Od" (as if the Torah had written "ve'Lo Yizbechu es Zivcheihem" and "ve'Lo Od es Zivcheihem").
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(a) We already discussed our Mishnah ('Matza be'Rosho Ma'os ... ') on the previous Amud. The Tana concludes that anything that one finds on the head of the Avodah-Zarah that is eligible to go on the Mizbe'ach - is forbidden.
(b) Rebbi Chiya bar Yosef Amar Rebbi Oshaya learns (with regard to the Pasuk in Eikev) 'Imahem (the first Pasuk) Dumya de'Aleihem (the second Pasuk)' ...
1. ... meaning - that whatever is in the vicinity of the Avodah-Zarah is compared to what is on them. The Torah forbids ...
2. ... "wood and stone, silver and gold that is with them", but only "silver and gold that is on them".
(c) What Rebbi Oshaya now means is - that what is in front of the Avodah-Zarah (in the first Pasuk [i.e. even the wood and the stone) is only forbidden if it is ornamental like what is on them (the silver and the gold in the second).
(d) He did not Darshen the other way round 'Aleihem Dumya de'Imahem' (to forbid even silver and gold that are not ornamental) - because if what is in front of the Avodah-Zarah is totally forbidden, how much more so what is on them (in which case the whole phrase [of "Lo Sachmod ... "Aleihem"] would be superfluous). Alternatively, we would know it from the word "Asher Imahem, which would then be superfluous").
(e) de'bei Rebbi Yanai explains that the Tana categorizes as non-ornamental ...
1. ... money - because he is speaking about money in a closed purse.
2. ... clothes - because he is speaking about clothes that are lying folded on the Avodah-Zarah's head.
3. ... a vessel, explains Rav Papa - because the Tana is speaking about a turned-over dish (for washing clothes) placed on its head.
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(a) Rav Shimi bar Chiya qualifies the above D'rashah of 'Imahem Dumya de'Aleihem', by confining 'Imahem' to what is found outside the Kilk'lin - (the partition in front of the idol).
(b) What Rav Shimi bar Chiya actually says is that whatever is within the Kilk;lin, even water and salt, is forbidden; whereas whatever is outside it, is only forbidden provided it is ornamental.
(c) This is because - whatever is found within the curtain, is sacrificial, rather than ornamental (and sacrifices do not need to be beautiful).
(c) Rebbi Yossi b'Rebbi Chanina adds that Pe'or and Markulis are not subject to the distinction of Kilk'lin. He cannot mean that even within the curtain has the same Din as outside it and is only forbidden if it is ornamental - because one can hardly expect any standard of beauty from an Avodah-Zarah in front of which one defecates (Ba'al Pe'or) or at which one throws stones (Markulis).
(d) What he obviously means is - that even what one finds outside the curtain does not need to be ornamental in order to be forbidden.
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(a) Our Mishnah permits deriving benefit from a garden or a bathhouse in front of which there is an Avodas-Kochavim, presuming it belongs to ...
1. ... the Avodah-Zarah exclusively - provided one does not pay rent.
2. ... others as well - even if he does pay rent (this distinction will be explained shortly).
(b) The Tana forbids the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri the moment it is made, but the Avodah-Zarah of a Yisrael - only after it has been worshipped.
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(a) Abaye explains 'she'Lo be'Tovah' and 'be'Tovah' regarding a garden belonging to an Avodah-Zarah with reference to - not paying or paying the priests rent ...
(b) This comes to preclude paying rent to the idol's adherents - which is permitted.
(c) Others learn Abaye's statement on the Seifa 'Hayah she'lah ve'Shel Acheirim', in which case ...
1. ... 'Nehenin Meihen be'Tovah' - refers to its adherents, and ...
2. ... 've'she'Lo be'Tovah' - to the priests.
(d) The first Lashon disagrees with the second Lashon's ruling - which, in the case of a shared garden or bathhouse - permits even paying rent to the priests.
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(a) The author of our Mishnah which forbids the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri the moment it is made, is Rebbi Akiva. Rebbi Yishmael in a Beraisa learns from the Pasuk in Re'ei ...
1. ... "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Makomos" - that vessels that were used to worship idols are Asur be'Hana'ah.
2. ... "Asher Avdu Sham ha'Goyim" - that they are not forbidden until they are actually used for that purpose.
(b) And he (Rebbi Yishmael) therefore concludes - that the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri is only forbidden once it has actually been worshipped.
(c) And he goes on to forbid the Avodah-Zarah of a Yisrael immediately. Rebbi Akiva say - the opposite, that the Avodah-Zarah of a Nochri is forbidden immediately, whereas that of a Yisrael is only forbidden after it has been worshipped.
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(a) Seeing as Rebbi Yishmael's source is the Pasuk in Re'ei, "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Mekonos", we ask - how he can learn from there the Din of vessels with which they served Avodah-Zarah.
(b) We learn from the Pasuk there "Eloheihem al he'Harim" - that the actual location where Avodah-Zarah was worshipped is forbidden. Consequently, the Pasuk "Abeid Te'abdun es Kol ha'Mekomos" is superfluous, which explains why Rebbi Yishmael uses it ('Im Eino Inyan') to learn the Din of Keilim.
(c) Rebbi Yishmael then concludes 'mi'Ka'n Amru, Avodas Kochavim shel Oveid-Kochavim Asurah Miyad'. The problem with this is - that here too, the source Pasuk is talking about vessels, and Rebbi Yishmael concludes with the Din of Avodah-Zarah.
(d) We learn from the Pasuk "Asher Atem Yorshim Osam es Eloheihem" - that the Nochrim's gods are compared to the vessels with which they are worshipped, thereby justifying Rebbi Yishmael's conclusion.
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